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Wed, 04 May 2011 09:11:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Re: water pump housing To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2117890775-1304525488=:9588" --0-2117890775-1304525488=:9588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom,=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 One additional thing comes to my mind...........I do no= t have a RX8 Renesis =0Afront side=0Ahousing (cast iron) but from all of my= research of photos I am fairly confident =0Athat the=0ARX8 front housing (= aluminum) will bolt directly to=A0the 93-95=A013BREW and Cosmo =0A13B=0Aand= 20B with some minor=A0mods (to possibly clear bolt heads on the 20B front = side =0Ahsg)=0Aand the drilling and threading of=A01 to=A03 existing bosses= for 8 mm x 1.25 studs =0Aor bolts..=0A=0A=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2= " (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Back= plate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________= ___________________=0AFrom: Kelly Troyer =0ATo: Rotary moto= rs in aircraft =0ASent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:32= :44 AM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing=0A=0A=0ATom,=0A=A0=A0 = Source for pump with=A0improved impeller...........They also have=A0used=A0= pump and =0Aeccentric shaft pulleys......=0A"Mazmart" is located in Atlanta= , GA............=A0=0A=0A=A0http://www.mazmart.com/PartsList.aspx?id=3D27&n= =3DNEW&m=3D6=0A=0A=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventu= ally)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil= Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________= __________=0AFrom: Tom Giddings =0ATo: Rotary moto= rs in aircraft =0ASent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:17= :50 AM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing=0A=0A=0AThanks Again!!= =0A=0AKind Regards =0ATom Giddings=0AVP Avionics Sales=0AMidwest Avionics= =0A200 Hardy Roberts Drive=0APaducah, KY 42086-0219=0A877-904-9966=0Atom@mi= dwestavionics.net=0AOnline Store=A0=0Awww.midwest-avionics.com=0A=0A=0AOn M= ay 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A=0A=0ATom,= =0A>=A0=A0=A0 Try these two RX8 recyclers............=0A>=0A>ss427bb@hotmai= l.com=A0 Brian Galloway in Calif..........Used by Greg Ward =0A>(Turbo/20B)= =0A>=A0=0A>mrmazda@sbcglobal.net=A0 Curtis James in Texas............Used b= y CozyGirrls, Mark =0A>(I believe) & myself=0A>=A0=0A>=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"= DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2= =0A>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Thomas Giddings =0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:02:53 AM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] Re:= water pump housing=0A>=0A>Mark: Thanks again....I must be getting old.. I = remember now that you did tell =0A>me that in one of our phone conversation= s...just now sinking in...as matter of =0A>fact i just found the photo's yo= u sent of your pump housing and engine set -up. =0A>Kelly...you are a very = helpful resource as well..I will try to find this =A0after =0A>market pump.= The question is does anyone have a RX8 water pump housing they =0A>would s= ell?=A0 =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Tom=A0Giddings=0A>VP Avionics Sales=0A>MIDWEST AVIO= NICS=0A>200 Hardy Roberts Dr=0A>PO Box 219=0A>West Paducah,KY 42086=0A>877-= 904 9966=0A>Cell; 727 858-1772=0A>FAX:270 744 3466=0A>tom@midwestaviation.n= et=0A>Online Store=0A>www.midwest-avionics.com=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>On = May 4, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Mark Steitle wrote:=0A>=0A>Tom, =0A>>=0A>>I'm runn= ing a modified Renesis water pump housing.=A0 As you know, the 20B WP =0A>>= housing is very tall with the thermostat section protruding up above the = =0A>>engine.=A0 The Renesis WP housing uses a side=A0intake/discharge but= =A0is integrated =0A>>with the front cover.=A0=A0The WP section=A0must be c= ut away from the remainder of the =0A>>Renesis front cover to be used on a = non-Renesis application.=A0 =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>The Renesis WP cartridge is much= lighter than the cast iron 20B cartridge, but =0A>>the impellor is very ch= eaply made.=A0 In the stock configuration, it may not pump =0A>>enough cool= ant to cool a 3-rotor.=A0 I went with an aftermarket WP cartridge which =0A= >>has a SS impellor similar to that of the 20B.=A0 I'll have to look for th= e info on =0A>>that.=A0 Pump was a bit pricey=A0at $265.=0A>>=0A>>You may a= lso need a custom WP pulley to run a Renesis pump on a non-renesis =0A>>eng= ine. =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Mark=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=A0=0A>>On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:14= PM, Thomas Giddings =0A>>wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Can any= one tell me which water pump housing will lower the overall height of the = =0A>>housing on the stock 20B. I need to keep =A0it the height of block if = possible. I =0A>>have seen some photos of one that would work.It was on a t= wo rotor engine.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Tom Giddings=0A>>>VP Avionics Sales=0A>>>= MIDWEST AVIONICS=0A>>>200 Hardy Roberts Dr=0A>>>PO Box 219=0A>>>West Paduca= h,KY 42086=0A>>>877-904 9966=0A>>>Cell; 727 858-1772=0A>>>FAX:270 744 3466= =0A>>>tom@midwestaviation.net=0A>>>Online Store=0A>>>www.midwest-avionics.c= om=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>--=0A>>>Homepage: =A0http://www.flyro= tary.com/=0A>>>Archive and UnSub: =A0 =0A>http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/= lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>><20B_WP_Picture 002 small.JPG>--= =0A>>Homepage: =A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=0A>>Archive and UnSub: =0A=A0= =A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0A>>=0A> --0-2117890775-1304525488=:9588 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Tom,
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  &= nbsp; One additional thing comes to my mind...........I do not have a RX8 R= enesis front side
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housing (cast iron) but from all of my resea= rch of photos I am fairly confident that the
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RX8 front housing= (aluminum) will bolt directly to the 93-95 13BREW and Cosmo 13B<= /DIV>=0A
and 20B with some minor mods (to possibly clear bolt head= s on the 20B front side hsg)
=0A
and the drilling and threading of=  1 to 3 existing bosses for 8 mm x 1.25 studs or bolts..
=0A=
 
=0A
 
=0A

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)<= /P>=0A

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/= Oil Manifold

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"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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=0AFrom: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>= ;
To: Rotary motors in a= ircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:32:44 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing<= BR>
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Tom,
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   Sour= ce for pump with improved impeller...........They also have used&= nbsp;pump and eccentric shaft pulleys......
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"Mazmart" is locat= ed in Atlanta, GA............ 
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 http://www.mazma= rt.com/PartsList.aspx?id=3D27&n=3DNEW&m=3D6
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Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELT= A JD2" (Eventually)

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"13B ROT= ARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

= =0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

=0A

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=0AFrom: Tom Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
= To: Rotary motors in aircra= ft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 10:17:50 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: water pump housing

=0A
Thanks Again!!

Kind Regards =0A
=0A
Tom Gid= dings
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VP Avionics Sales
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Midwest Avionics
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200 Hardy Roberts Drive
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Paducah, KY 42086-0219
=0A877-904-9966
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Online Store 
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On M= ay 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@at= t.net> wrote:

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Tom,
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    Try = these two RX8 recyclers............
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ss427bb@hotmail.com  Brian Gal= loway in Calif..........Used by Greg Ward (Turbo/20B)
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= mrmazda@sbcglobal.net  Curtis James i= n Texas............Used by CozyGirrls, Mark (I believe) & myself=
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Kelly Troyer
"DYK= E DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

=0A

"1= 3B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d

=0A

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

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=0AFrom: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, May 4, 2011 9:02:5= 3 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary= ] Re: water pump housing

Mark: Thanks again....I must be gett= ing old.. I remember now that you did tell me that in one of our phone conv= ersations...just now sinking in...as matter of fact i just found the photo'= s you sent of your pump housing and engine set -up. Kelly...you are a very = helpful resource as well..I will try to find this  after market pump. The question is does anyone have a RX8 water pump housing they would= sell?  =0A

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= Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
=0A
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Hardy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Pad= ucah,KY 42086
877-904 9966
Cell; 727 858-1772
FAX:270 744 3466
= tom@midwestaviation.net
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<Midwest>=

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On May 4, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Mark Steitle = wrote:

=0A
=0A
Tom,
=0A
 
=0A
I'm running a modified R= enesis water pump housing.  As you know, the 20B WP housing is very ta= ll with the thermostat section protruding up above the engine.  The Re= nesis WP housing uses a side intake/discharge but is integrated w= ith the front cover.  The WP section must be cut away from t= he remainder of the Renesis front cover to be used on a non-Renesis applica= tion. 
=0A
 
=0A
The Renesis WP cartridge is m= uch lighter than the cast iron 20B cartridge, but the impellor is very chea= ply made.  In the stock configuration, it may not pump enough coolant = to cool a 3-rotor.  I went with an aftermarket WP cartridge which has = a SS impellor similar to that of the 20B.  I'll have to look for the i= nfo on that.  Pump was a bit pricey at $265.
=0A
 <= /DIV>=0A
You may also need a custom WP pulley to run a Renesis pump on = a non-renesis engine.
=0A
 
=0A
Mark
=0A
 
=0A
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:14= PM, Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net> wrote:
=0A
Can= anyone tell me which water pump housing will lower the overall height of t= he housing on the stock 20B. I need to keep  it the height of block if= possible. I have seen some photos of one that would work.It was on a two rotor engine.=


Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
MIDWEST AVIONICS
200 Ha= rdy Roberts Dr
PO Box 219
West Paducah,KY 42086
= 877-904 9966
Cell; 727 858-1772
FAX:270 744 3466
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