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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:41:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
Subject: Timing Question for Tracy
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Tracy, =0A=A0=A0=A0 I will try to be more clear............If the stock pos=
ition of the sensor =0Ais moved slightly=0Ain relation to the trigger wheel=
 can the EC2-3=A0 compensate or does the trigger =0Awheel=0Ahave to be repo=
sitioned to regain the stock timing relative to TDC =0A?...............=0A=
=0AThanks,=0A=0A=A0Kelly Troyer=0A"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTA=
RY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURB=
ONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom=
: Tracy <rwstracy@gmail.com>=0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lan=
caironline.net>=0ASent: Fri, April 29, 2011 8:24:34 PM=0ASubject: [FlyRotar=
y] Re: Back-plate Photos=0A=0A=0ATracy,=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 I have a couple of=
=A0questions=A0for you about your RV4 Renesis =0Aengine.................Are=
 you using the stock Renesis ignition sensor=0A=A0and is it mounted mounted=
 on the Renesis front cover =0Amounting=A0??..............When the Renesis =
trigger wheel and sensor are in the=0A=A0stock position what is the engine =
timed at (BTDC) before any computer (stock =0Aand/or EC2-3) correction (sta=
tic timing) ??..........=0A=0AThanks,=0AKelly Troyer=0A=0AYes, my Renesis h=
as the stock crank position sensor in stock location.=0A=0AI may not unders=
tand your timing question Kelly but there simply is no =0Acorrelation betwe=
en the crank position sensor timing and any ignition timing. =A0 =0AThe com=
puter is just getting an arbitrary (but well defined) crank position from =
=0Athe sensor & trigger wheel.=A0 It can make the timing anything it wanted=
 to with =0Athat information.=A0 Without the computer there can be no such =
thing as static =0Aignition timing with a trigger pattern from the RX-8 set=
up. =0A=0A=0ATracy
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to be more clear............If the stock position of the sensor is moved sl=
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/DIV>=0A<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>"DYKE DELTA JD2"</FONT> <FONT size=3D1>=
(Eventually)</FONT></STRONG></DIV>=0A<P>"13B ROTARY"_ Engine<BR>"RWS"_RD1C/=
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=0A<HR SIZE=3D1>=0A<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Tr=
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Rotary] Re: Back-plate Photos<BR></FONT><BR>=0A<DIV>Tracy,</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nb=
sp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have a couple of&nbsp;questions&nbsp;=
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the Renesis front cover mounting&nbsp;??..............When the Renesis trig=
ger wheel and sensor are in the</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;stock position what is t=
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ank position sensor in stock location.<BR><BR>I may not understand your tim=
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ition sensor timing and any ignition timing. &nbsp; The computer is just ge=
tting an arbitrary (but well defined) crank position from the sensor &amp; =
trigger wheel.&nbsp; It can make the timing anything it wanted to with that=
 information.&nbsp; Without the computer there can be no such thing as stat=
ic ignition timing with a trigger pattern from the RX-8 setup. <BR><BR>Trac=
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