X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c3j) with ESMTP id 4941157 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:12:25 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.32; envelope-from=kenpowell@comcast.net Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VE2m1g0021ZMdJ4A3EBqVD; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 02:11:50 +0000 Received: from sz0159.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.227]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VEBq1g00R4tzcqL8cEBq42; Sat, 09 Apr 2011 02:11:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 02:11:50 +0000 (UTC) From: kenpowell@comcast.net To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <1557432144.3618454.1302315110213.JavaMail.root@sz0159a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1390004209.3617502.1302313280380.JavaMail.root@sz0159a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy's RV-8 Wings - LSA RV-4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3618453_101800108.1302315110212" X-Originating-IP: [76.125.123.2] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.5_GA_2431.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.5_GA_2427.RHEL4) ------=_Part_3618453_101800108.1302315110212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charlie,=20 I hope to use wing tips like on Jim Smith's RV-6 that you showed me (design= ed by Paul Lipps?).=20 Ken Powell=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Charlie England" =20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Friday, April 8, 2011 2:57:31 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy's RV-8 Wings =C2=A0- =C2=A0LSA RV-4=20 On 4/8/2011 10:47 AM, Ernest Christley wrote:=20 > tonyslongez@cox.net wrote:=20 >> Ken I wouldn't worry to much about the speed I mean nobody has a=20 >> radar gun on you. So if your in the middle of no-where fly it as fast=20 >> as it will go I say. All they can realy check is the weight for the=20 >> cert after that only you know how fast you are going.=20 >>=20 > I never understood the fascination with limiting the top speed=20 > anyway. =C2=A0As long as you're not approaching the structural limits of= =20 > the craft, speed, altitude and horsepower are valuable insurance. =C2=A0I= s=20 > there ANY pilot EVER that was upset that he got above the trees=20 > sooner, or had to many options after being turned into a glider? =C2=A0= =20 > Setting a minimum landing speed is pure genius if the goal is to=20 > maximize safety, =C2=A0but I can't fathom how limits on the other factors= =20 > is anything other than bureaucratic brain freeze.=20 > I would very much like to be enlightened on this.=20 Consider yourself enlightened: It's Politics As Usual, USA style. The=20 numbers were set the way they were set to minimize the effect on=20 existing manufacturers of light a/c & make sure that only those who=20 couldn't otherwise fly (for Medical reasons) would find Sport Pilot=20 privileges attractive. The existing manufacturers don't lose any=20 existing potential revenue stream, and might even gain one if they start=20 building their own versions of Light Sport. You can bet that they paid=20 well to get the rules written the way they currently exist.=20 Consider what would happen if FFA simply removed the Medical requirement=20 on the 'still-born' Recreational Pilot ticket.=20 Ken, the speed limit is a paper exercise. Look to the Sport Pilot-legal=20 Carbon Cub & follow its example. (Absolutely stunning airplane, for an=20 absolutely stunning price....)=20 Charlie=20 --=20 Homepage: =C2=A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 Archive and UnSub: =C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Charlie England" =20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" =20 Sent: Friday, April 8, 2011 2:57:31 PM=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy's RV-8 Wings =C2=A0- =C2=A0LSA RV-4=20 On 4/8/2011 10:47 AM, Ernest Christley wrote:=20 > tonyslongez@cox.net wrote:=20 >> Ken I wouldn't worry to much about the speed I mean nobody has a=20 >> radar gun on you. So if your in the middle of no-where fly it as fast=20 >> as it will go I say. All they can realy check is the weight for the=20 >> cert after that only you know how fast you are going.=20 >>=20 > I never understood the fascination with limiting the top speed=20 > anyway. =C2=A0As long as you're not approaching the structural limits of= =20 > the craft, speed, altitude and horsepower are valuable insurance. =C2=A0I= s=20 > there ANY pilot EVER that was upset that he got above the trees=20 > sooner, or had to many options after being turned into a glider? =C2=A0= =20 > Setting a minimum landing speed is pure genius if the goal is to=20 > maximize safety, =C2=A0but I can't fathom how limits on the other factors= =20 > is anything other than bureaucratic brain freeze.=20 > I would very much like to be enlightened on this.=20 Consider yourself enlightened: It's Politics As Usual, USA style. The=20 numbers were set the way they were set to minimize the effect on=20 existing manufacturers of light a/c & make sure that only those who=20 couldn't otherwise fly (for Medical reasons) would find Sport Pilot=20 privileges attractive. The existing manufacturers don't lose any=20 existing potential revenue stream, and might even gain one if they start=20 building their own versions of Light Sport. You can bet that they paid=20 well to get the rules written the way they currently exist.=20 Consider what would happen if FFA simply removed the Medical requirement=20 on the 'still-born' Recreational Pilot ticket.=20 Ken, the speed limit is a paper exercise. Look to the Sport Pilot-legal=20 Carbon Cub & follow its example. (Absolutely stunning airplane, for an=20 absolutely stunning price....)=20 Charlie=20 --=20 Homepage: =C2=A0http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 Archive and UnSub: =C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/= List.html=20 ------=_Part_3618453_101800108.1302315110212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>

Charlie,

I hope to use wing tips like on Jim Smith's RV-6 that you showed me (des= igned by Paul Lipps?).

Ken Powell


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <c= eengland@bellsouth.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary= @lancaironline.net>
Sent: Friday, April 8, 2011 2:57:31 PM
Subject= : [FlyRotary] Re: Tracy's RV-8 Wings  -  LSA RV-4

On 4/8/2= 011 10:47 AM, Ernest Christley wrote:
> tonyslongez@cox.net wrote:>> Ken I wouldn't worry to much about the speed I mean nobody has a =
>> radar gun on you. So if your in the middle of no-where fly it = as fast
>> as it will go I say. All they can realy check is the w= eight for the
>> cert after that only you know how fast you are g= oing.
>>
> I never understood the fascination with limiting = the top speed
> anyway.  As long as you're not approaching the = structural limits of
> the craft, speed, altitude and horsepower are= valuable insurance.  Is
> there ANY pilot EVER that was upset = that he got above the trees
> sooner, or had to many options after b= eing turned into a glider?  
> Setting a minimum landing speed i= s pure genius if the goal is to
> maximize safety,  but I can't= fathom how limits on the other factors
> is anything other than bur= eaucratic brain freeze.
> I would very much like to be enlightened on= this.
Consider yourself enlightened: It's Politics As Usual, USA style.= The
numbers were set the way they were set to minimize the effect on <= BR>existing manufacturers of light a/c & make sure that only those who =
couldn't otherwise fly (for Medical reasons) would find Sport Pilot privileges attractive. The existing manufacturers don't lose any
exist= ing potential revenue stream, and might even gain one if they start
bui= lding their own versions of Light Sport. You can bet that they paid
wel= l to get the rules written the way they currently exist.

Consider wh= at would happen if FFA simply removed the Medical requirement
on the 's= till-born' Recreational Pilot ticket.

Ken, the speed limit is a pape= r exercise. Look to the Sport Pilot-legal
Carbon Cub & follow its e= xample. (Absolutely stunning airplane, for an
absolutely stunning price= ....)

Charlie

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