Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #54391
From: Tom Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Turbo turbine hsg A/R ratio(was intersting video)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 21:53:51 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Kelly: Yes... Thanks for the correction. Actually I am using a 1.15 . Brain fade... Staying up to late.

Kind Regards
Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
Midwest Avionics
200 Hardy Roberts Drive
Paducah, KY 42086-0219
877-904-9966
Online Store 


On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:

Tom,
   Correction..........Your Turbine hsg is 0.60 A/R ratio !!.................<:) 

Kelly Troyer


From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 9:24:46 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Turbo turbine hsg A/R ratio(was intersting video)

Tom,
   I think Greg's 1.06 A/R turbine hsg is probably in the ballpark..........Your 0.72 hsg (corrected 0.60) 
will probably be a screamer off the ground and for racing but may tend to have excess back pressure
and over-speed at cruising altitudes............You may have to have an extra turbine hsg for cruise to
reduce wear on your turbo since your ship will be dual purpose...................The  current group flying
Turbo/13B's with TO4 turbine sections have 0.98 to 1.15 A/R hsgs..........My TO4E-50 has a 1.15 A/R
hsg for cruising at oxygen levels (12,000 msl +)............Your 20B flows 1/3 again more air than the 13B
and of course all of our projects will take flight testing to prove out all these guesstimates.........IMHO
 
 
  Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo




From: Greg Ward <gregw@onestopdesign.biz>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 11:52:30 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: intersting video

Hey Tom;
Ours is the 1.06 A/R, and as you can see, we are going straight out the side of the cowling.
Boost wise, we have a box of springs for the wastegate, and will wait for the dyno tests to find out our best settings.  With the prop configuration we have, we anticipate not a hell of a lot of acceleration, until we hit around 120 Knots, and then watch out........(:-)
Greg


----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Giddings" <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 8:09 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: intersting video


Greg: I am using the GT4294  56Trim  0.60 A/R Water/oil cooled . The 4088 is 54Trim 0.72 A/RI thought this might work better to keep the exhaust from backing up.It will be slow on bottom end ,but start making power around 3500 and up.. We are looking at about the power you are expecting. How much boost are you using? I am also curious what your intake plenum cost to build.

On Mar 26, 2011, at 10:41 PM, Greg Ward wrote:

> Got it right the first time Tom.
> Greg
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Giddings" <tom@midwestaviation.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:02 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: intersting video
>
>
> Greg: Is your Turbo set up  a GT4088 non bb unit ?
> Tom Giddings
> VP Avionics Sales
> MIDWEST AVIONICS
> 200 Hardy Roberts Dr
> PO Box 219
> West Paducah,KY 42086
> 877-904 9966
> Cell; 727 858-1772
> FAX:270 744 3466
> tom@midwestaviation.net
> Online Store
> www.midwest-avionics.com
>
>
>
> --
> Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html


--
Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html


--
Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and UnSub:  http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
Subscribe (FEED) Subscribe (DIGEST) Subscribe (INDEX) Unsubscribe Mail to Listmaster