Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #54136
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss above staging point.
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 08:14:39 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Mark,

The car the engine came from had about 1400 miles on it.  I have run about 40 gallons of gas thru it.  I will have to check the coils for darkening.  Also same for plug wires.  I am using the stock Renesis plugs.  I might try cleaning them.

 

On a previous occasion, I flooded the engine and it would not start till I sand blasted the plugs.  After that it started normally.

 

This problem just happened on the second takeoff.  The engine was running smoothly at all rpms till I made the second takeoff.  It started to miss and pop and the rpm would only go to about 6300.  after I got in the air, I dialed the prop back and the rpm was around 6000 and the engine smoothed out again and was ok the rest of the flight.  Now it is missing on the ground above the staging point.  I have mine set at 16 inches.

I watched the mixture and it seems fine on both sides of the staging point and also on up in the higher rpms.  The only difference is that the engine starts to miss.erratically.  I didn’t notice the EGT as Tracy suggested.  I need to switch to the page that shows the temp of both of them and check that today.

 

Bill

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:50 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss above staging point.

 

Bill, 

 

How do the coils look (underneath)?  Are there dark areas in the potting material where they have gotten hot?  There is a history of coil failures in the RX-8's after about 30k miles.    

 

How many hours on the plugs/wires?  How do they look?

 

Mark  

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Mark,

 

I have the stock Renesis coils.

 

Bill B

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:19 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Miss above staging point.

 

Bill, 

 

Which coils are you running?  I chased an intermittent miss which occurred in the 6000 -7000 range.  I upgraded to the LS2 "Yukon" coils and the miss was gone.  

 

Mark S.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I have developed a miss above the staging point.  The fuel pressure seems ok, the mixture also seems ok.  I am at a loss.

 

To try and troubleshoot, I am considering getting above the staging point and disabling the primaries and secondaries to see if I can identify which is the cause.  Since it runs ok below the stage, I assume it is not the primaries.

 

I recently changed my fuel filters and installed a large canister filter.  There seems a possibility  that I introduced some contamination that clogged an injector.  Other wise it seems it must be spark related.  This just happened one flight ago.  The engine was running fine, till that last takeoff.  It was missing and would only get about 6300 rpm.  After take off, I turned the prop back and slowed the engine down to below that number and it smoothed out and ran fine the res of the flight.  Today while taxiing around, I noticed that the miss was back.

 

Opinions welcomed.

 

Bill B

 

 

 

 

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