X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from outbound-b1.mx-route.com ([208.123.79.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTP id 4892184 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:00:01 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.123.79.45; envelope-from=tom@midwestaviation.net Received: from mobile-166-137-008-074.mycingular.net (HELO [10.61.87.106]) ([166.137.8.74]) by smtp.mxtoolbox.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 05 Mar 2011 15:59:21 -0600 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Numbers? References: From: Tom Giddings Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1067344371 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8B117) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:59:57 -0500 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8B117) --Apple-Mail-1--1067344371 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I am newby... I am building a Questair Venture. I am installing a 20B. I wa= nt to Turbo it. My goal is 500 HP,I want to race it at Reno at some point in= the Sport Class. Anyone out there doing or has done anything similar. Would= appreciate any help or advise about your setup etc. My airframe is close to= needing some power. Kind Regards Tom Giddings VP Avionics Sales Midwest Avionics 200 Hardy Roberts Drive Paducah, KY 42086-0219 877-904-9966 tom@midwestavionics.net Online Store=20 www.midwest-avionics.com On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:14 PM, "Thomas Mann" wrote: > I have C438 . > We must be okay! > =20 > From: Marc Wiese > Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:22 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Numbers? > =20 > 20B MAZDA in black outline paint; C927 on all three rotor housings=E2=80=A6= . >=20 > Marc >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Be= half Of Thomas Giddings > Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:57 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? >=20 > =20 >=20 > Here you go everyone: The engine should be stamped on all the rotor housin= gs and sideplates. Look on the top of the rotor housings where is says "Mazd= a 20B" >=20 >=20 > Pre A code: 3 digit numbers only, no letter > A code : Letter A and 3 digit # > B code : Letter B and 3 digit # > All of the above are small dowel pin land motors >=20 > C code: letter C and 3 digit # > D code : letter D and 3 digit # >=20 > The C and D code have the upgraded sideplates, thicker dowel pin lands. Ap= prox: 4mm thicker >=20 > On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thomas, >=20 > Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the group..........= .. > =20 >=20 > Kelly Troyer > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) >=20 > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >=20 > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Thomas Giddings > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? >=20 > Thanks Kelley....Your right...Brian knows his stuff...I have a very early 2= 0B >=20 > =20 >=20 > Tom >=20 > On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Thomas, >=20 > Try Brian Galloway in Calif.........He deals in Mazda parts and is ve= ry knowledgeable in >=20 > the 20B models and the differences between them.........Improvements were m= ade in the >=20 > year models............For our use in aircraft the upgrades probably are n= ot as important as >=20 > we are not severely stressing our engines like the racers (Auto) do.......= ..I do know that the >=20 > later model 20B's sell at a premium...........The last time I corresponded= with him he had >=20 > both early and late 20B's for sale............I bought a 20B auto trans be= ll housing from him >=20 > (My 13B "Cosmo" uses it between Tracy's RD1C and engine like "Bulent" of t= his group >=20 > .....See photo) attached)..........FWIW >=20 > =20 >=20 > Brian Galloway >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > Kelly Troyer > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) >=20 > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >=20 > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Thomas Giddings > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers? >=20 > On a similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I hav= e? I was told ,but have no real way of knowing . >=20 > On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Pat, >=20 > If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the number of= bolts >=20 > on the pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP bolts= ..... >=20 > =20 >=20 > 93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and dirty but the= re are >=20 > other ways if WP is missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted to a= lum >=20 > housing......... >=20 > =20 >=20 > Kelly Troyer > "DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually) >=20 > "13B ROTARY"_ Engine > "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 > "MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold >=20 > "TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: Pat Panzera > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Numbers? >=20 > Hey gang, >=20 > I have a core engine I need to identify. > Are there any numbers on the web I can look up? >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Pat >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html >=20 > =20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html >=20 > =20 >=20 > =20 --Apple-Mail-1--1067344371 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I  am newby... I am building a Questair Venture. I am installing a 20B. I want to Turbo it. My goal is 500 HP,I want to race it at Reno at some point in the Sport Class. Anyone out there doing or has done anything similar. Would appreciate any help or advise about your setup etc. My airframe is close to needing some power.

Kind Regards
Tom Giddings
VP Avionics Sales
Midwest Avionics
200 Hardy Roberts Drive
Paducah, KY 42086-0219
877-904-9966
Online Store 


On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:14 PM, "Thomas Mann" <tmann@n200lz.com> wrote:

I have C438 .
We must be okay!
 
From: Marc Wiese
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:22 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 20B Numbers?
 

20B MAZDA in black outline paint; C927 on all three rotor housings….

Marc

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Giddings
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:57 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

 

Here you go everyone: The engine should be stamped on all the rotor housings and sideplates. Look on the top of the rotor housings where is says "Mazda 20B"


Pre A code: 3 digit  numbers only, no letter
A code : Letter A and 3 digit #
B code : Letter B and 3 digit #
All of the above are small dowel pin land motors

C code: letter C and 3 digit #
D code : letter D and 3 digit #

The C and D code have the upgraded sideplates, thicker dowel pin lands. Approx: 4mm thicker

On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:



Thomas,

     Share some of your new found info on the 20B with the group............
 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

 

 

From: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 5:23:15 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

Thanks Kelley....Your right...Brian knows his stuff...I have a very early 20B

 

Tom

On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Kelly Troyer wrote:



Thomas,

     Try Brian Galloway in Calif.........He deals in Mazda parts and is very knowledgeable in

the 20B models and the differences between them.........Improvements were made in the

year models............For our use in aircraft the upgrades probably are not as important as

we are not severely stressing our engines like the racers (Auto) do.........I do know that the

later model 20B's sell at a premium...........The last time I corresponded with him he had

both early and late 20B's for sale............I bought a 20B auto trans bell housing from him

(My 13B "Cosmo" uses it between Tracy's RD1C and engine like "Bulent" of this group

.....See photo) attached)..........FWIW

 

Brian Galloway <ss427bb@hotmail.com>

 


 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

 

 

From: Thomas Giddings <tom@midwestaviation.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:02:41 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Numbers?

On a similar topic...does anyone know how to identify which year 20B I have? I was told ,but have no real way of knowing .

On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:



Pat,

     If your core engine still has the waterpump on it count the number of bolts

on the pump........86-88 13B has 7 WP bolts...........89-91 has 8 WP bolts.....

 

    93-95 13B has an all aluminum WP.......This is quick and dirty but there are

other ways if WP is missing...........The 86-91 WP is cast iron bolted to alum

housing.........

 

Kelly Troyer
"DYKE DELTA JD2" (Eventually)

"13B ROTARY"_ Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold

"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo

 

 

From: Pat Panzera <editor.contactmagazine@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 7:37:54 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Numbers?

Hey gang,

I have a core engine I need to identify.
Are there any numbers on the web I can look up?

Thanks!

Pat

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