X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTPS id 4871748 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:04:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.180; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by wyb28 with SMTP id 28so879888wyb.25 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:03:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HXhPE+DMf17SHiDHnhWjlTNs0Y9KRLcOmdJS6q6SwRw=; b=n1prOS+J3nMB6ya3gTwj7THP5kUQICmUiHDq6zzncu9bB3WYMtvAfzVgZ/sQbmuu2/ Ew2kydlJKCE6rnuWxXjoETrc5ZmFRtkj8GcfZIwLG8+D87/fWfGZl19/0RroNgojTwD6 t3KN8jZ2gBoVObeyHGAuBprrnFolDr5R9jgnw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nj4FS64eWzltuePh+jFaSpLHExLX+ExTofQEKPLi4VT83PZKXXavQAM3XzDQWfSP13 /xB9EN2TqEcvgQZgJxqwqbREnWI1yus1vvkCBZxAD/2xjBaFBsElTfNBXt4avJGwMvqX hZNEuE34Dedkj9nBwCBA/lD/FI/mKgNUFMgFI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.9.74 with SMTP id 52mr44111wes.87.1297818217103; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:03:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.59.65 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:03:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:03:37 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Lmr4rXNgjzzJyP2yHCjUeBPdmJo Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] in-flight fire podcast From: Tracy To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d1b99d041cd049c5bd999 --0016364d1b99d041cd049c5bd999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought about this a little and ended up with Piloti Nomex lined driving shoes. Very comfy too. Tracy On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Marc Wiese wrote: > Interesting, although I fail to see the FAA reason for the fire=85..? > > > > Although twenty minutes in length, I thought this was worth passing along > to my colleagues. > > A couple of things about this incident caught my attention. > > There was no fire extinguisher on the aircraft. The instructor seemed to > gloss over this point very quickly yet I suspect it could have caused a > much-better outcome had it been there, reachable, usable and of sufficien= t > capacity to knock the fire down. > > The instructor's shoe melted in the flames and he makes reference to > "plastic' a couple of times, yet he was able to put his cotton-sock-cover= ed > foot back into the flames onto the rudder pedal to maintain the steep sli= p, > after his student was able to pull the melting shoe off his foot. Most > flying instructors wear some form of a running shoe, even the CFI's that = I > have met.Many, if not most, pilots that I know wear synthetic-material sh= oes > when they are flying, for understandable reasons of comfort and flexibili= ty. > That doesn't mean that wearing something that is either flammable or will > melt to your foot is necessarily a good thing. The fact that a thin, cott= on > sock afforded him more fire protection than his entire shoe should be > telling. > > At Skyquest, for some reason, half the instructors wear leather shoes, > completely at odds with other schools. > > I am guilty, however, of polishing my flying shoes. > > when I pointed out the style of dress evident in the T-28 formation > training video- wearing Nomex flying suits and gloves but with the sleeve= s > rolled up to the elbow- my instructor wryly observed to only leave expos= ed > what parts of you that you want barbequed... > > > > > http://www.avweb.com/podcast/podcast/AudioPodcast_JadeSchiewe_CockpitFire= EmergencyLanding_204104-1.html?kw=3DAVwebFlash > > > > http://www.avweb.com/other/SchieweFactualNTSB.pdf > --0016364d1b99d041cd049c5bd999 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thought about this a little and ended up with Piloti Nomex lined driving sh= oes.=A0 Very comfy too.

Tracy

On T= ue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:52 PM, Marc Wiese <cardmarc@charter.net> wrote:

Interesting, although I fail = to see the FAA reason for the fire=85..?

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Although tw= enty minutes in length, I thought this was worth passing along to my collea= gues.

A couple= of things about this incident caught my attention.

There was no fire ext= inguisher on the aircraft.=A0 The instructor seemed to gloss over this poin= t very quickly yet I suspect it could have caused a much-better outcome had= it been there, reachable, usable and of sufficient capacity to knock the f= ire down.

The inst= ructor's shoe melted in the flames and he makes reference to "plas= tic' a couple of times, yet he was able to put his cotton-sock-covered = foot back into the flames onto the rudder pedal to maintain the steep slip,= after his student was able to pull the melting shoe off his foot.=A0Most f= lying instructors wear some form of a running shoe, even the CFI's that= I have met.Many, if not most, pilots that I know wear synthetic-material s= hoes when they are flying, for understandable reasons of comfort and flexib= ility. That doesn't mean that wearing something that is either flammabl= e or will melt to your foot is necessarily a good thing. The fact that a th= in, cotton sock afforded him more fire protection than his entire shoe shou= ld be telling.

At Skyqu= est, for some reason, half the instructors wear leather shoes, completely a= t odds with other schools.

I am guilty, however, of polishing my flying s= hoes.

when I p= ointed out the style of dress evident in the T-28 formation training video-= wearing Nomex flying suits and gloves but with the sleeves rolled up to th= e elbow- my instructor wryly=A0 observed to only leave exposed what parts o= f you that you want barbequed...

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