X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4c2o) with ESMTPS id 4871173 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:38:22 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@att.net X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,474,1291622400"; d="scan'208";a="518719898" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 15 Feb 2011 08:37:47 -0800 Received: from [10.62.16.200] (ernestc-laptop.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.200]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id p1FGbl9G024329 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:37:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D5AABD7.9080600@att.net> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:37:43 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@att.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100623) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Ceramic Apex Seals....curiosity RE ceramin/carbon/steelst References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Barber wrote: > Since I am likely about to replace my apex seals, at least in my rear > rotor, I was surfing around the net looking at options regarding apex > seals, O-rings, gaskets etc. The reality is, I will probably use > Tracy's seals, however, while on Mazdatrix looking at stuff, I once > again noticed the ceramic apex seals available there and their $300.00 > price for EACH one, thus costing $1800.00 for a set. YIKES. I am pretty > certain we have all looked at these and wondered about them. Personally > I pretty much dismissed them as not enough of a balance for what ya > get. Then I realized that I am not really certain what that $1800 buys. > > The argument I've heard for the ceramic seals is that they are nicer to the chrome surface of the rotor housing. My answer to that is at 100hrs/yr, how long do you seriously expect to run the engine before a teardown? Ten years will be 1,000 hrs, and the cheap seals have proven to be more than adequate for that. Do you really want to run for more than 10yrs without cracking the image open?