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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:49:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net>
Subject: Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Water temps
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Chrissi,=0A=A0=A0=A0 My own opinion is that after warm up and in flight the=
 oil temp leaving the =0Aengine before the =0A=0Acoolers (air or water=A0 t=
o oil) will almost always be well above =0A160-180=A0F..............If it i=
s not this=0Ahigh then the=A0oil to water cooler will actually help warm it=
 to a more efficient =0Atemp.........IMHO=0A=0A=A0=A0 Somebody correct me i=
f this is a fallacy !!.......................<:)=0A=0AKelly Troyer=0A"DYKE =
DELTA JD2" (Eventually)=0A"13B ROTARY"_ Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"MIST=
RAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold=0A"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____=
____________________________=0AFrom: "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" <CozyGirrrl@aol.c=
om>=0ATo: keltro@att.net=0ASent: Mon, December 13, 2010 12:52:06 PM=0ASubje=
ct: Re: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Water temps=0A=0AThis is where I get confus=
ed:=0A=0Asaid previously, =0A-ideal water temp =3D 160*~180*F=0A-ideal oil =
temp =3D 160*F=0A=0AIf we are cooling oil with water that is at best hotter=
 than the ideal temp of =0Athe oil, then are we not adding heat to it rathe=
r than removing it? =0A=0A=0AIf we are trying to cool oil, why would we fee=
d the highest temp water to the =0Aoil/water cooler rather than the coolest=
 temp water by tapping into the pump =0Ahousing where it enters the block?=
=0A=0ABased on feedback, the water entering the block may be as low as 150*=
~160*F, =0Awould this be cool enough to do an adequate job of cooling the o=
il?=0A=0AAlso, which model of Mocal is being used?=0A=0A...Chrissi
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ad><body><div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:1=
2pt"><DIV></DIV>=0A<DIV>Chrissi,</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My own opi=
nion is that after warm up and in flight the oil temp leaving the engine be=
fore the </DIV>=0A<DIV>coolers (air or water&nbsp; to oil) will almost alwa=
ys be well above 160-180&nbsp;F..............If it is not this</DIV>=0A<DIV=
>high then the&nbsp;oil to water cooler will actually help warm it to a mor=
e efficient temp.........IMHO</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 Somebody correct me if this is a fallacy !!.......................&lt;:)</=
DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<P>Kelly Troyer<BR><STRONG><FONT size=3D4>"DYKE =
DELTA JD2"</FONT> <FONT size=3D1>(Eventually)</FONT></STRONG></P>=0A<P>"13B=
 ROTARY"_ Engine<BR>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2<BR>"MISTRAL"_Backplate/Oil Manifold<=
/P>=0A<P>"TURBONETICS"_TO4E50 Turbo</P>=0A<DIV><BR></DIV>=0A<DIV style=3D"F=
ONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>=0A<DIV styl=
e=3D"FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=
><FONT size=3D2 face=3DTahoma>=0A<HR SIZE=3D1>=0A<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEI=
GHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> "CozyGirrrl@aol.com" &lt;CozyGirrrl@aol.com&gt;=
<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> keltro@att.net<BR><=
B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Mon, December 13, 2010=
 12:52:06 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re=
: Fw: [FlyRotary] Re: Fw: Water temps<BR></FONT><BR><FONT id=3Drole_documen=
t color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>=0A<DIV>This is where I get confuse=
d:</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>said previously, </DIV>=0A<DIV>-ideal w=
ater temp =3D 160*~180*F</DIV>=0A<DIV>-ideal oil temp =3D 160*F</DIV>=0A<DI=
V>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>If we are cooling oil with water that is at best hott=
er than the ideal temp of the oil, then are we not adding heat to it rather=
 than removing it? </DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>If we are trying to co=
ol oil, why would we feed the highest temp water to the oil/water cooler ra=
ther than the coolest temp water by tapping into the pump housing where it =
enters the block?</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<DIV>Based on feedback, the w=
ater entering the block may be as low as 150*~160*F, would this be cool eno=
ugh to do an adequate job of cooling the oil?</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<=
DIV>Also, which model of Mocal is being used?</DIV>=0A<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>=0A<=
DIV>...Chrissi</DIV></FONT></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>
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