X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-ey0-f180.google.com ([209.85.215.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.10) with ESMTP id 4587208 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:48:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.180; envelope-from=dmlobner@gmail.com Received: by eyf18 with SMTP id 18so3752858eyf.25 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:48:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NouwMssxyTJBGOE3B0hAI3LPnc9CblGdfqoHUuWFJnM=; b=JDD/1o4tj8pAzjY1So6rZlWbHiOAj/XlXMAHN/n2aNouxDmiOJWHOu14hUEiNjYWSA CGamiCVvWX3IEJvvaU5NgR4jVU4lXPu3rrYhPXAG0nmG05xcNCTNBu+ldoYRHmGEdD+p aXOXaAUx5G0dAMX8t//2BelyzEhWxo/EH9Fk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tsRwk6p/ip+J/D2nVVlMLV2IGiA1HXZqKbl6potP0x0xdIFOjbLQbaAZ7He+pLDQ5h XYyf6zpwNHLx3aUBCNDLR4x0dMKmi+4iMlmjMqC0aVFS+2yDdvQDsMPJ6pmSgrad3f2W CTzmUzpSncmOp40F8jPSNG5tyIMM/8dXZl8MU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.4.12 with SMTP id 12mr6911123ebp.39.1290361699922; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.27.200 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:48:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:48:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Nitro in a rotary aircraft - N/A 20B? From: Dustin Lobner To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517478bf0c17526049593be0a --001517478bf0c17526049593be0a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ken, How easy would it be to add it after the fact? I'm building a Bearhawk, planning to put it on floats eventually, but not right away. The nitro would be assistance getting off the water, same as you. If I were to add the nitro when I add floats, how hard would that be? Dustin On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Ken Welter wrote: > > I have been running NOS with a 125 hp burst to get my Coot up on the step > and out of the water, without it I would just have a boat that could not > fly, I think it would work fine with Tracy's setup as the nitrous system > adds extra fuel to make up for the extra oxygen, use only the NOS brand > system as most other systems are junk. > Ken > > > > > On Nov 21, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Dustin Lobner wrote: > > Yeah, I'll put that idea to rest for awhile then. Thanks! > > Dustin > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Tracy wrote: > >> Nitrous systems that I've seen have a completely independent system for >> injecting additional fuel when the nitrous is on. The EC3 has no way of >> knowing anything about the NOX system so it does nothing different. >> >> Tracy >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Dustin Lobner wrote: >> >>> Some talk on HomeBuiltAirplanes.com forums brought up the question, has >>> someone ever used nitrous oxide on a rotary aircraft install? I'm pretty >>> sure a supercub-type plane did that awhile back (on a Lyco) for a super >>> short takeoff roll using a fixed pitch cruise prop (with a crapton of HP at >>> takeoff). That's close to my application in the end, probably with a N/A >>> 20B, hence the interest. >>> >>> Tracy, how would your EC3 handle short bursts of nitro? Would that >>> totally throw the mixture curve, would I need to manual adjust while doing >>> it, or would it auto compensate somehow? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Dustin >>> Rockford, IL >>> >> >> > > --001517478bf0c17526049593be0a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken,

How easy would it be to add it after the fact?=A0 I'm build= ing a Bearhawk, planning to put it on floats eventually, but not right away= .=A0 The nitro would be assistance getting off the water, same as you.=A0 I= f I were to add the nitro when I add floats, how hard would that be?

Dustin

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:19 = AM, Ken Welter <rotarycoot.ken@gmail.com> wrote:

=A0=A0I have been= running NOS with a 125 hp burst to get my Coot up on the step and out of t= he water, without it I would just have a boat that could not fly, I think i= t would work fine with Tracy's setup as the nitrous system adds extra f= uel to make up for the extra oxygen, use only the NOS brand system as most = other systems are junk.
=A0Ken


=


On Nov 21, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Dustin Lobn= er wrote:

Yeah, I'll put that idea t= o rest for awhile then.=A0 Thanks!

Dustin

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 6:42 A= M, Tracy <tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrote:
Nitrous systems t= hat I've seen have a completely independent system for injecting additi= onal fuel when the nitrous is on.=A0 The EC3 has no way of knowing anything= about the NOX system so it does nothing different.

Tracy


On Sun,= Nov 21, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Dustin Lobner <dmlobner@gmail.com> wrote:
Some talk on Ho= meBuiltAirplanes.com forums brought up the question, has someone ever u= sed nitrous oxide on a rotary aircraft install?=A0 I'm pretty sure a su= percub-type plane did that awhile back (on a Lyco) for a super short takeof= f roll using a fixed pitch cruise prop (with a crapton of HP at takeoff).= =A0 That's close to my application in the end, probably with a N/A 20B,= hence the interest.

Tracy, how would your EC3 handle short bursts of nitro?=A0 Would that t= otally throw the mixture curve, would I need to manual adjust while doing i= t, or would it auto compensate somehow?

Thanks!

Dustin
Rockford, IL




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