X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.107] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with SMTP id 4428330 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:55:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.107; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: (qmail 90369 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Aug 2010 16:54:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1281632073; bh=i10Ze4Sw9k55xHrIp+jmL4rhN+uEnHrz4hRQfx35ay4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uDTr9c/YrcYnX+zXJtIgJIugSzD3TRAvIiYqrZp3c00kd7PazpZSIApgEPNYUQwueoovZc3rNCPWDx7/qCGfM2TzbOy0kZpARQ2vfRBOlTv5J5bxt6DkMfDK8f4FKYpGs8ztgdke7kAAjBmRWo0plL2rpNCc+cCTLX01483cWMI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ILbSAx48q5OVL3WF+je/8YHAeOI7CGhjbVKhL1K0oQPFFTJMBN0qbC/Yldwhx040oHUq2tPoqnLsxkiviJfQ9AcGm5hRIQT5Z41uC0NPVwGXU2eh52/H415/y/lxJdbXzesJfR2wfhLgKR99bBt8nZKJ5fkjXGE+nvIPWhC3lh8=; Message-ID: <386144.89635.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: L3xDsgEVM1lW6Wg27iKzX9ScqM2zCRRhK6v8iePGIzNo3.4 NtOh8jyk9G.vHcIZpPc7ImPWTd8UjmPN_hXvmTRrNJKZI7uZW.H3OMmuBUZf 0iEkLj0foLFmEAHHypK38NutP5eTyp1agyZ85fOjr1nQXegaNbel5_3N0jiV GxvQoWf9r.3jCQAFQd75VXDVvbAAi6z5shRl7c.x0M0e8UMitIGB_VQ57hEY vZiXS.PfMmgsmLvBrJTLZeuCoezR7DaeOepugM1opXJGGLncyvmB1amk9QJl .b6WH6r45Y8tTZS.yuCxZkQDHKYZAzY3lusXFLiwQIZ9t.qviGAYBik.seVc iRteGZGdlq7nU3CqEyF90oN6RZ6hwXwOCS9RHcptAjcs7 Received: from [208.114.45.62] by web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:54:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/470 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:54:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: Turbo Questions To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-182160707-1281632073=:89635" --0-182160707-1281632073=:89635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob,=0A=0A=A0=A0 Now that I presume you have put several hours on your 13B/= Turbo installation =0AI would=0Alike to ask a few performance=A0questions..= ..........I have been going through =0Acompressor=0Amaps from "Turbonetics"= and was wondering what boost numbers you are seeing at=A0=0Avarious rpm's = and altitudes from your 60-1 turbo.............I am looking at =0Athe=A0TO-= 4E with=0Atrims from 50 to 60 and of course your 60-1.............Several o= f these turbo's =0Awould do=0Aa reasonable job but=A0I would prefer to chos= e one that will=A0be most efficient at=A0 =0Aabout a=0Amaximum 5 lbs or les= s boost (1.35 pressure ratio) and at the lowest turbine =0Arpm..........=0A= =A0=0A=A0 I probably will not find one that is perfect but will try to pick= the best =0Acompromise from=0Athe choices.............John Slade if you re= ad this would=A0appreceiate some of =0Athe same=0Ainfo on your TO4E-50 as= =A0I believe you have the most hours on this =0ATurbo...........=0A=A0=0A= =A0 Bob I realize that you have the 1.15=A0a/r turbine housing (which I lea= n toward =0Ato avoid=0Aoverspeed at oxygen=A0altitude)=A0=A0and John you ha= ve the .96 a/r housing =0Afor=A0moderate=0Aaltitude.............Another fac= tor is=A0if the propeller pitch=A0is fixed or =0Aadjustable.........I have= =0Aa inflight adjust "IVO" as does John Slade and=A0I do not recall what=A0= you have =0ABob.........=0A=A0=0AThanks in Advance,=A0=A0=A0=A0=0A=A0Kelly = Troyer=0A"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"Mistral"_Ba= ckplate/Oil Manifold =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom= : "Rogers, Bob J." =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft =0ASent: Fri, April 23, 2010 1:49:34 PM=0ASubject: = [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area=0A=0A=0AMy turbo is a= Turbonetics 60-1 compressor trim, with 1.15 A/R divided tang, oil =0Ato be= arings, and water cooled.=A0 See the following link.=0A=A0=0Ahttp://www.agp= turbo.com/product.php?productid=3D16138&cat=3D252&page=3D1=A0 or the =0Aatt= ached .pdf file (if it can be transmitted).=A0 =0A=0A=A0=0ABob=0A=A0=0A=A0= =0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom:Rotary motors in aircraft = [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of =0AKelly Troyer=0ASent: W= ednesday, April 21, 2010 3:52 PM=0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft=0ASubject:= [FlyRotary] Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area=0A=A0=0ABob,=0A=A0 Curio= us as to the make,model, Compressor Trim and A/R of=A0 the=0ATurbine housin= g of your Turbo ??...................=0A=A0=0A--=0AKelly Troyer =0A"Dyke De= lta"_13B ROTARY Engine =0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 =0A"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Man= ifold --0-182160707-1281632073=:89635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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   Now that I presu= me you have put several hours on your 13B/Turbo installation I would=
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like to ask a few performance questions..= ..........I have been going through compressor
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maps from "Turbonetics" and was wondering what boost numbers you are= seeing at 
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various rpm's and altit= udes from your 60-1 turbo.............I am looking at the TO-4E with
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trims from 50 to 60 and of course your 60= -1.............Several of these turbo's would do
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a reasonable job but I would prefer to chose one that will&nb= sp;be most efficient at  about a
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ma= ximum 5 lbs or less boost (1.35 pressure ratio) and a= t the lowest turbine rpm..........
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  I probably will not find one th= at is perfect but will try to pick the best compromise from
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the choices.............John Slade if you read this wou= ld appreceiate some of the same
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inf= o on your TO4E-50 as I believe you have the most hours on this Turbo..= .........
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  Bob I realize that you have the 1.15 a/r turbine ho= using (which I lean toward to avoid
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over= speed at oxygen altitude)  and John yo= u have the .96 a/r housing for moderate
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altitude.............Another factor is if the propeller pitch&nbs= p;is fixed or adjustable.........I have
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= a inflight adjust "IVO" as does John Slade and I do not recall what&nb= sp;you have Bob.........
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Thanks in Advance,    
 
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke= Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil = Manifold =0A

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=0AFrom:= "Rogers, Bob J." <BRogers@FDIC.gov>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancairo= nline.net>
Sent: Fri,= April 23, 2010 1:49:34 PM
Subject:= [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary engine aircraft in Dallas area

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My turbo is = a Turbonetics 60-1 compressor trim, with 1.15 A/R divided tang, oil to bear= ings, and water cooled.  See the following link.

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http://= www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=3D16138&cat=3D252&page=3D1  or the attached .pdf file (if it can be transmitted). 

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Bob

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From: Rotary mo= tors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kelly Troyer
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:52 PM
= To: Rotary motors in aircraft<= BR>Subject: [FlyRotary] Rot= ary engine aircraft in Dallas area

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Bob,=

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  Curious as to the make,model,= Compressor Trim and A/R of  the

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Turbine housing of your Turbo ??...................

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Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B= ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =


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