X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.92.101] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with SMTP id 4427079 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:38:33 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.147.92.101; envelope-from=keltro@att.net Received: (qmail 83437 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2010 19:37:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1281555478; bh=Ya+HcxC0XOiIaRNrGgivC+bt12qsSkfNQj5OlvpH7UY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I+sTFTjG1bikUDC9bgvRj9xGim21VZFB2XFQKZ0DoIswfZEYHZx8mVNXgMzxRFyiuh9eAHBRco7CpUc10Xrecw7o5aEuIlUwtY0TKVpXRw/y3Mm2lLuxGJCMOOJDOF6ijnU6b+98RFo0it6ObZtcuiONa3LYTBfDz1po404DDtE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=att.net; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0Q1TofXQIqnwmvIyEe6Mi66yk7ezimpTYHWY48LRsV4W6OlsturYKAniz/sSAp6PRIdfAU7ny9eQcTzTs9AHhqNmr/SrDgZb7Og+Xbu2pydEIU8TPXvXi2txqP3nQy+Uptj4noGWx8txsgVYP6kK37hp24oCg/7hpd7qbQ32Bf0=; Message-ID: <949820.72115.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1nEYC20VM1lAV.JW3u_3zLb5j4mYZlFhz3HPsoWamDmymtZ BLr45nqrNO5geRIfKpKnwwms4qz8jd9w8n4Kai0vDTVVJVKm.0APg54PcJcM UWrC2Tju6Y1yksNHawoIqy6nWSVy1jlzU4o.PF3AnpeLcc_30DTVzvpZbdrg B7KBQY9OtM0XYSM1uSrTGLer.MbTWbhGSzYgiNy8CQMloDyh7rZGQnEfSuFf cuNoDwkccmv1Fg.adkzoAVsp_pkXxSTV8FvLCQu4NZgDmowTDpJFPxURcthm CvbyWxs0vzlvhDuiZ7oKITKMAxxKAMTdM18NQHOQ2Fy2jS9zIT61A4FHGpwx _wk14d28qOoFfcMjY_aTRY5wBxSzj6J8- Received: from [208.114.41.73] by web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:37:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/459 YahooMailWebService/0.8.105.279950 References: Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:37:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly Troyer Subject: New video of my turbo rotary installinmyVelcitySE To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1694077123-1281555478=:72115" --0-1694077123-1281555478=:72115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,=0A=A0=A0=A0 Have not talked to the guys yet at turbo.com but just wo= ndering if your =0Aturbine=0Ahousing exhaust outlet came with a=A0machined = flange for a "V" clamp to connect=0Ayour exhaust pipe to the housing.......= .....=A0=0A=A0Kelly Troyer=0A"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC= 2/EM2=0A"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________= _____________=0AFrom: Chris Barber =0ATo: Rotary= motors in aircraft =0ASent: Wed, August 11, 2= 010 10:50:30 AM=0ASubject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary ins= tallinmyVelcitySE=0A=0A=0AKelly,=0A=0AI have a 3 lb spring in the=A0wastega= te to limit boost.=A0 I do not have a manual =0Aadjustment...just the sprin= g.=A0My desire is to be mindful of=A0detonation issues =0Asince this is so = often discussed.=A0 Figure I should start small.=A0 I have seen =0Aboost on= my=A0EM2 that seem in line with the spring installed.=A0 I am having a =0A= brain bubble on the MP but the Rpm is about 6300 rpm.=A0=A0It seems to like= about =0A6250 better as I have to play with mixture to get to 6300 for a f= ew seconds, but =0Awill=A0stabilize around 6250 rpm. I am limited to this f= or a very short time (less =0Athan a minute)=A0since at these power setting= s my temps start to rise FAST =0A(perhaps bad design...or, perhaps 108 degr= ees F on the ramp with about 98% =0Ahumidity....perhaps both).=0A=0AThe tur= bo is a "Comp Turbo"=A0T4 with.=A0 IIRC, the A/R is .96 with P trim, like = =0AJohn Slade's. The Comp Turbo was=A0recommended the guys at=A0Turbocharge= rs.com ( a =0Alocal Houston company).=A0 Perhaps they get a kick back or ju= st like the company. =0AThe guy I spoke with says it is the brand he uses e= xtensively. I have the =0A"Performance"=A046mm wastegate.=A0=0A=0AHope this= info helps a bit.=0A=0AAll the best,=0A=0AChris=0AHouston, GSOT=0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0A=0AFrom: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary= @lancaironline.net] on behalf of Kelly =0ATroyer [keltro@att.net]=0ASent: T= uesday, August 10, 2010 6:54 PM=0ATo: Rotary motors in aircraft=0ASubject: = [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary installinmyVelcity SE=0A=0A=0A= Chris,=0A=A0=A0 What boost figures have you seen so far ??................A= lso please refresh =0Aus on the=0Aparticulars of your turbo.........Model ,= =A0compressor trim , turbine housing A/R =0Aratio , etc........=0A=A0=A0Kel= ly Troyer=0A"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=0A"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A"Mistral"= _Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AF= rom: Chris Barber =0ATo: Rotary motors in aircra= ft =0ASent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:01:34 PM=0A= Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary install inmyVelcity S= E=0A=0A=0AHave made some high power run ups to about 6300 rpm. The high pow= er runs are =0Abrief due to it getting hot fast,ESP with 100degree+ ramp te= mps. =A0Did a decibel =0Acheck last night at idle. About 83 at 50ish feet. = =A087 at 25ish feet. 92 at prop =0Aand 83 in cabin. I shudder at what it mu= st have been before the turbo. =A0 Tuning =0Ais improving as I improve my c= omfort zone with the ecu=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Aug 9, 2010, at 9= :11 AM, Kelly Troyer wrote:=0A=0A=0AChris,=0A>=A0=A0=A0 lo= oking and sounding gooood !!.....................How is your tuning (EFI) = =0A>at this=0A>time............Made any hi power runups and how close to fi= rst flight are =0A>you.........=0A>Kelly Troyer=0A>"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY = Engine=0A>"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2=0A>"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Chris Barber =0A>To: Rotary motors in aircraft =0A>Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 1:39:00 AM=0A>Subject: [FlyRotary] N= ew video of my turbo rotary install in my Velcity SE=0A>=0A>=0A>Much work a= nd time has been spent, but I think I just about have my engine =0A>install= where I want it.=A0 I took this video today with my new I-Phone.=A0 The = =0A>quality ok but much better than my old Motorola=A0Cliq (what garbage).= =0A>=0A>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrhMfuOMJJwc=0A>=0A>Comments are we= lcome....well, uh....yeah, they are welcome. :-)=0A>=0A>All the best,=0A>= =0A>Chris=0A>Houston, GSOT --0-1694077123-1281555478=:72115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Chris,
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    Have not tal= ked to the guys yet at turbo.com but just wondering if your turbine
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housing exhaust outlet came with a machined flange for a "V" c= lamp to connect
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your exhaust pipe to the housing............&n= bsp;
 
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"= _RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A

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=0AFrom: Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattor= ney.net>
To: Rotary m= otors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 10:50:30 AM
= Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New v= ideo of my turbo rotary installinmyVelcitySE

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Kelly,
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I have a 3 lb spring in the wastegate to limit boost.  I do not have a manua= l adjustment...just the spring. My desire is to be mindful of det= onation issues since this is so often discussed. = ; Figure I should start small.  I have seen boost on my EM2 that seem in line with the spring in= stalled.  I am having a brain bubble on the MP but the Rpm is about 63= 00 rpm.  It seems to like about 6250 better= as I have to play with mixture to get to 6300 for a few seconds, but will&= nbsp;stabilize around 6250 rpm. I am limited to this = for a very short time (less than a minute) since at these power settin= gs my temps start to rise FAST (perhaps bad design...or, perhaps 108 degrees F on the ramp with about 98% = humidity....perhaps both).
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The turbo is a "Comp Turbo" T= 4 with.  IIRC, the A/R is .96 with P trim, like John Slad= e's. The Comp Turbo was recommended the guys at Turbochargers.com ( a= local Houston company).  Perhaps they get a kick back or just like th= e company. The guy I spoke with says it is the brand he uses extensively. I= have the "Performance" 46mm wastegate. 
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Hope this info helps a bit.
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All the best,
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Chris
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H= ouston, GSOT
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From: Rotary motors in aircraft= [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Kelly Troyer [keltro@att.net]Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:54 PM
To: Rotary motors= in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotar= y installinmyVelcity SE

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Chris,
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   What boost figures have you= seen so far ??................Also please refresh us on the
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p= articulars of your turbo.........Model , compressor trim , turbine hou= sing A/R ratio , etc........
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Kelly Troyer"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplat= e/Oil Manifold =0A

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=0AFrom:<= /B> Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lanc= aironline.net>
Sent: = Tue, August 10, 2010 3:01:34 PM
Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Re: New video of my turbo rotary install inmyV= elcity SE

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Have made some high power run ups to about = 6300 rpm. The high power runs are brief due to it getting hot fast,ESP with= 100degree+ ramp temps.  Did a decibel check last night at idle. About= 83 at 50ish feet.  87 at 25ish feet. 92 at prop and 83 in cabin. I sh= udder at what it must have been before the turbo.   Tuning is improvin= g as I improve my comfort zone with the ecu

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On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:

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Chris,
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 = ;   looking and sounding gooood !!.....................How is you= r tuning (EFI) at this
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time............Made any hi power runup= s and how close to first flight are you.........
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K= elly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mis= tral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold =0A

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=0AFrom: Chris Barber <cbarber@texasattorney.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, August 9, 2010 1:39:00 AMSubject: [FlyRotary] New = video of my turbo rotary install in my Velcity SE

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