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Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2920205 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:18:14 -0500 Received: from rad ([68.155.99.73]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040106221810.XXQM1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@rad> for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:18:10 -0500 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: rev-2, evap cores everywhere (and hose comments) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 16:18:12 -0600 Message-ID: <006901c3d4a2$f96397b0$6001a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D470.AEC927B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D470.AEC927B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice looking installation, Rusty. I see one potential problem, however. = I feel that those rectangular pieces of wood taped on the faces of the = cores might interfere with airflow. (Yes, I'm kidding). =20 =20 But Todd said they'd bock the hail :-) =20 I know you have done a lot of research on the internet in the past = looking for hose and fittings. I need to plumb my new radiator that is similar = to your first radiator, (with -16 AN fittings on both the radiator and the water pump), and I'm looking for the best/least expensive source for the hose and fittings. Where did you purchase yours? Thanks for the info and good luck on your installation. Looks well planned and professional. = Paul Conner=20 =20 Thanks for the comments Paul. As for the hoses, I've tried to resist answering this, because I'm not sure my experience is the "norm". I = bought all my fittings from ANPlumbing ( http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/ ). = They carry only Earl's brand of hoses and fittings, and must have a very = large inventory. They handled all my orders quickly, and had 99.9% of = everything I ordered in stock. That's the good news. On the downside, their = prices aren't necessarily the best, but being able to place one large order, = rather than several smaller ones, made up for that. =20 =20 The real complaint is that I'm skeptical of the quality of the Earl's fittings. On my RV-8, I used nothing but Aeroquip. That was the first = time I had ever made up braided hoses, and they all came out perfect, without = a single leak. Later, I added an inverted oil system, again all Aeroquip. Again, no leaks anywhere. On the RV-3, I used all Earl's fittings, and = I bet 9 out of 10 of them leaked. Usually, (over) tightening them would = stop it, but sometimes the leak was in the swivel seal of the fitting itself. = I finally got all those to stop leaking by exercising the fitting swivels. Bottom line is that I will NOT be using Earl's fittings again.=20 =20 Now that I've said all that, I can add that I have spoken to others, who have been very happy with Earl's, so maybe I'm just really unlucky. At = any rate, the Pegasus racing link that Mark provided has better prices than ANPluming, and the fittings are Aeroquip, or Goodyear. I made a note of = it for my next round of fittings. Thanks Mark. =20 Cheers, Rusty (off to Mobile to work late tonight... again) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C3D470.AEC927B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message

Nice = looking=20 installation, Rusty. I see one potential problem, however. I = feel=20 that those rectangular pieces of wood taped on the faces of = the cores=20 might interfere with airflow. (Yes, I'm kidding).

But Todd said they'd bock the hail=20 :-)

I know you have done a lot of = research on=20 the internet in the past looking for hose and fittings. I need to plumb = my new=20 radiator that is similar to your first radiator, (with -16 AN fittings = on both=20 the radiator and the water pump), and I'm looking for the best/least = expensive=20 source for the hose and fittings. Where did you purchase yours? Thanks = for the=20 info and good luck on your installation. Looks well planned and=20 professional. Paul Conner

Thanks for the = comments=20 Paul. As for the hoses, I've tried to resist answering this, = because I'm=20 not sure my experience is the "norm". I bought all my = fittings from=20 ANPlumbing ( http://www.anplumbing.com/shop/<= /A> ). They=20 carry only Earl's brand of hoses and fittings, and must have = a very=20 large inventory. They handled all my orders quickly, and had 99.9% = of=20 everything I ordered in stock. That's the good news. On the=20 downside, their prices aren't necessarily the best, but being able = to place=20 one large order, rather than several smaller ones, made up for = that. =20

The real = complaint is that=20 I'm skeptical of the quality of the Earl's fittings. On my = RV-8, I=20 used nothing but Aeroquip. That was the first time I had ever made = up=20 braided hoses, and they all came out perfect, without a single = leak. =20 Later, I added an inverted oil system, again all Aeroquip. Again, = no leaks=20 anywhere. On the RV-3, I used all Earl's fittings, and I bet 9 out = of 10=20 of them leaked. Usually, (over) tightening them would stop = it, but=20 sometimes the leak was in the swivel seal of the fitting = itself. I=20 finally got all those to stop leaking by exercising the fitting = swivels. =20 Bottom line is that I will NOT be using Earl's fittings=20 again.

Now that I've = said all that,=20 I can add that I have spoken to others, who have been very happy with = Earl's, so=20 maybe I'm just really unlucky. At any rate, the Pegasus = racing link=20 that Mark provided has better prices than ANPluming, and the fittings = are=20 Aeroquip, or Goodyear. I made a note of it for my next round=20 of fittings. Thanks = Mark.

Cheers,

Rusty (off to = Mobile to work=20 late tonight...=20 again)

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