X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f185.google.com ([209.85.210.185] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.5) with ESMTP id 4219355 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:11:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.185; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by yxe15 with SMTP id 15so3531627yxe.7 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:10:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5cxc79JSQPDPOUcGk50StNJMaasBtngAxYj+Fb0ka/U=; b=wHn5ttMV95+2tt+3k8kcUhBa7Ebi6+cFc1YF+4tNFYRMEg/cKQJDUE+366MVAYfJgw ZwI3ycUsxOrUeFLopaC7AFUtcB8QXPB7DgijTPumkkpjDbw7enEGx3zZW2sbt7Ns0S8s ZNd3ON03T3VbTmb58OLkCE7fWUVY+OTiyr2XU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WG4DuLgY8aZuRYzkBljbB+phQelLyBZeqAEGFc6EGN8CqEIuxJNlWD1fexSGGLYKP4 MGjSD43posmBiNWMr8PzeLVs1zw6jqW0yf2Uu5zwYFfgkgDr+2HFngq6B0cw2ucqClBi d7mWQnprFDdkBc9+miG//j6HdawdijCF6yAXA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.183.195 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:10:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:10:40 -0500 Received: by 10.150.13.9 with SMTP id 9mr4689881ybm.274.1271124640757; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Mistral Muffler From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdf1b98ad76c2048414c489 --000e0cdf1b98ad76c2048414c489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lynn, OK, now I see what you're talking about with the thin band around the main muffler can. Would that even be necessary if they had used your slip-fit joints near the ports? That's what I did which should allow enough movement to prevent cracking of the main muffler canister. We'll have to wait and see on that. Personally, I'm not too crazy about the perforated pipes. Seems they would take the brunt of the exhaust energy. Mark S. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Lynn Hanover wrote: > Lynn, > > Sorry, but I don't see a slip joint. However, I do see what appears to be > a plate welded over an apparent cutout in the exhaust flange. What I would > really like to see is what's inside. > > I follow you on the flat surfaces being a failure point. That was one > reason why I welded the inner tube to both ends... to keep them from flexing > and eventually failing. Time will tell how well it works. > > Mark S. > > The black arrow points to a band of material wrapped around what I suspect > is a cut through muffler. > > The red arrows point to the edges of the band. > > It is welded only on the right end. > > The lite sheet between the flanges would be to prevent cooling air leaks > into any number of ports into the center iron used to feed air into the > stock exhaust ports to reduce HC and cool NOX. > > This is all speculation on my part. > > Lynn E. Hanover > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > --000e0cdf1b98ad76c2048414c489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lynn,=A0

OK, now I see what you're talking about wit= h the thin band around the main muffler can. =A0Would that even be necessar= y if they had used your slip-fit joints near the ports? =A0That's what = I did which should allow enough movement to prevent cracking of the main mu= ffler canister. =A0We'll have to wait and see on that.

Personally, I'm not too crazy about the perforated = pipes. =A0Seems they would take the brunt of the exhaust energy. =A0
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Mark S.

On Mon, Apr 12= , 2010 at 7:23 PM, Lynn Hanover <lehanover@gmail.com> wrote:
Lynn,=A0=20

Sorry, but I don't see a slip joint. =A0However, I do see what app= ears to be a plate welded over an apparent cutout in the exhaust flange. = =A0What I would really like to see is what's inside. =A0

I follow you on the flat surfaces being a failure point. =A0That was o= ne reason why I welded the inner tube to both ends... to keep them from fle= xing and eventually failing. =A0Time will tell how well it works.=A0

Mark S.
=A0
The black arrow points to a band of material wrapped around what I sus= pect is a cut through muffler.
=A0
The red arrows point to the edges of the band.
=A0
It is welded only on the right end.
=A0
The lite sheet between the flanges would be to prevent cooling air lea= ks into any number of ports into the center iron used to feed air into the = stock exhaust ports to reduce HC and cool NOX.
=A0
This is all speculation on my part.
=A0
Lynn E. Hanover

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