| Tracy,
Anyone with a table saw, drill press, and a TIG can build a slide throttle. Of course, it will probably turn out better if you use a Bridgeport mill, but if you're careful, it can be built at home by the normal builder. After building a 6-runner side-port manifold, building the slide-throttle intake was a piece of cake.
Is it necessary? I don't know because I never tried running it with a regular throttle body. But if a regular throttle body would work for our purposes, the intake could be even simpler. PL sells slide-throttle kits for the 2-rotor. How much simpler could it be than that?
I just pleased with how my intat all fits together as a system.
Mark On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com> wrote:
"One nice thing about the p-port motor is that the intake is super simple
make. Of course, you've got to build a slide throttle. ;-) "
Just curious Mark, are you just kidding or do you really think the slide throttle is a necessity? When and if I ever build a P-Port engine I'll use a standard throttle body. I don't see a significant advantage to the slide throttle. It's still too far away from the inner port entrance to help the idle. With a conservative port timing the idle is OK for aircraft use anyway. Richard's P Port idled OK using a carburetor and it was a one rotor which has a even harder time at idle.
Tracy
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:
Bill,
One nice thing about the p-port motor is that the intake is super simple make. Of course, you've got to build a slide throttle. ;-)
Mark
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net> wrote:
My
understanding is that one advantage to using individual throttles as you did
was that it mitigated the effect of pulses between the intakes and tuning
became less critical.
Where
did you get the tubes to weld-up? I’m planning on making a casting
myself but it would nice to know alternate sources.
Bill;
I don’t recall where I got the
tube – there are a number of vendors. I think I bought U-bends
which were then cut and welded. The tube size was chosen to have a circumference
close to match that of the ports. The fabricator then made mandrels to
shape the tubes to match the ports – then welded into the water-jet cut
flange.
Al
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01, 2010 5:06 PM
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Tuned lengths
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Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuned
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Please
post drawings/photos/specs...Yvon
Some
photos of the intake manifold for the 20B are attached. It is 4.5” from
flange to flange; the TB flange is at a slight angle to fit my installation;
the TB is TWM 3003; 44mm diameter bores.
Another
builder built his from my drawings and had a couple extra made. At least
one is still available. The price is around $1000; I’ll have to check.
That’s a real deal – by the time I had mine fabricated and heat
treated it was over $2000. Let me know if anyone is interested.
Al
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