Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #50118
From: Dennis Haverlah <clouduster@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:54:44 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Bill,
It's been over a year since I studied the Renesis intake but this is what I remember.

The lowest rotary valve in the Renesis intake shuts off the secondarie intakes at low rpm.  It is full open for high rpms. The next rotary valve connects the combined primary and secondary intakes from rotor #1 to the primary and secondary's of rotor #2 at high rpms.  With the engine running at high rpm and with both valves open the DIE can work.  The DIE path length is from one rotor intake valve (at the rotor face)  up to and thru the second or upper rotating valve (in the open position) and back down the other intake tube to the other rotor valve face.

Hope this makes sence!

Dennis H.

Bryan Winberry wrote:

Yes George, I was referring to the Renesis manifold.  Specifically though, I was talking about the valve that produces the D.I.E. effect.  

What a terrible acronym.

BW


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:28 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo

 

Bryan,

I'm hearing you, I guess you mean the Renesis manifold. Maybe someone can duplicate that in carbon fiber, in a more compact form. I know - another job for Bill Jepson.

George (down under)

George,

It’s a shame that the stock intake that does all this using a valve, can’t be used in our application.

Bryan

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:54 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo

 

Bryan,

I missed where the 43" came from, however from my calculations for 44mm inlet tube, my calculations came to 21.36". That's for a straight tube inlet manifold. That's interesting isn't it.

George (down under)

This is hard for me to visualize as well.  Perhaps if you get a chance, you could snap a picture from the top.

Did you get 43 in. from #1 secondary to #2 secondary?

Bryan

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:29 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo

 

Dennis,

I just looked at your picture again…the secondary look much longer than the primaries.  It may be an optical illusion???  I bet you mean 1 1/8 id??

Bill B 

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:03 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo

All my tubes are the same length and the same diameters.  I can check but I think they were 1 1/4 id. and 1 1/4 od.

Bill Bradburry wrote:

Dennis,

Aren’t your primary and secondary tubes different lengths from rotor face to rotor face?   If so, what are the two lengths?  Are they different diameters?

Bill B

 


 


 

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