X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([66.196.96.85] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with SMTP id 4127334 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:24:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.196.96.85; envelope-from=bryanwinberry@bellsouth.net Received: (qmail 83565 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2010 22:24:00 -0000 Received: from acer7fbfa7e2f7 (bryanwinberry@98.88.56.190 with login) by smtp102.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2010 14:23:59 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: OSuEAS2swBAaBd4uKxevNivslbMG7JXpWjAWZVmoYyRm6qcW_W2VUA-- X-YMail-OSG: qtmbWJcVM1lpIBynmE1WOuJsR0EzwwyCtw6mu5M4d7k46NEWWVrCfEyhQc7Yjc3WDhDFrwEY2aCHiatHfucBAg9M7W1mx.86Tl64U1ZcxPmG_dOiacY3u6yiq_JuCkHwqWAo6P1KqhlxeDTVQf6ub3SAE6FSqk3qhewoNWwYxHlaGDIkSpSJE6SBMXy0u._DZyVXx5q8IQvV_e2vEKD2.SrilE2IL.bf4B9OJcUBpDaoALmJPMEX.d.7ZiSoOSvmDPz6tKKnagWyEqsdQsjnlSVZHq_KcLlLjT9kYA0fjl_d4u6xzdbjOZUk2Wfn8sBakD8GhLKvtCINrJYgffL5cPc6DzGJ3oPlO5v9lg5mnV_bUI80oRpQozdcYqSGXZ0S0tAdOU0xvw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Bryan Winberry" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:23:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01CAAF2C.D3235390" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcqvTxhkEXyJqGL9Ray5cLOVZFC07AAB0rvg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CAAF2C.D3235390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes George, I was referring to the Renesis manifold. Specifically though, I was talking about the valve that produces the D.I.E. effect. What a terrible acronym. BW _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:28 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo Bryan, I'm hearing you, I guess you mean the Renesis manifold. Maybe someone can duplicate that in carbon fiber, in a more compact form. I know - another job for Bill Jepson. George (down under) George, It's a shame that the stock intake that does all this using a valve, can't be used in our application. Bryan _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:54 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo Bryan, I missed where the 43" came from, however from my calculations for 44mm inlet tube, my calculations came to 21.36". That's for a straight tube inlet manifold. That's interesting isn't it. George (down under) This is hard for me to visualize as well. Perhaps if you get a chance, you could snap a picture from the top. Did you get 43 in. from #1 secondary to #2 secondary? Bryan _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:29 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo Dennis, I just looked at your picture again.the secondary look much longer than the primaries. It may be an optical illusion??? I bet you mean 1 1/8 id?? Bill B _____ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 11:03 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to turbo All my tubes are the same length and the same diameters. I can check but I think they were 1 1/4 id. and 1 1/4 od. Bill Bradburry wrote: Dennis, Aren't your primary and secondary tubes different lengths from rotor face to rotor face? If so, what are the two lengths? Are they different diameters? Bill B _____ _____ ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01CAAF2C.D3235390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes George, I was referring to the = Renesis manifold.  Specifically though, I was talking about the valve that = produces the D.I.E. effect.  

What a terrible = acronym.

BW

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich
Sent: Tuesday, February = 16, 2010 4:28 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to = turbo

 

Bryan,

I'm hearing you, I guess you = mean the Renesis manifold. Maybe someone can duplicate that in carbon fiber, = in a more compact form. I know - another job for Bill = Jepson.

George (down = under)

George,

=

It’s a shame that the stock = intake that does all this using a valve, can’t be used in our = application.

Bryan

 

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich
Sent: Tuesday, February = 16, 2010 3:54 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to = turbo

 

Bryan,

I missed where the 43" = came from, however from my calculations for 44mm inlet tube, my calculations = came to 21.36". That's for a straight tube inlet manifold. That's = interesting isn't it.

George (down = under)

This is hard for me to visualize as = well.  Perhaps if you get a chance, you could snap a picture from the = top.

Did you get 43 in. from #1 = secondary to #2 secondary?

Bryan

 

From: Rotary motors in = aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Monday, February = 15, 2010 11:29 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to = turbo

 

Dennis,

I just looked at your picture again…the secondary look much longer than the primaries.  It may be an = optical illusion???  I bet you mean 1 1/8 id??

Bill B 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Haverlah
Sent: Monday, February = 15, 2010 11:03 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = rpm vs Power was : Throttle limits was Re: N.A. Renesis to = turbo

All my tubes = are the same length and the same diameters.  I can check but I think they were 1 = 1/4 id. and 1 1/4 od.

Bill Bradburry wrote:

Denn= is,

Aren’t your primary and secondary tubes different lengths from rotor face to rotor face?   If so, what = are the two lengths?  Are they different = diameters?

Bill B

 

 

 

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