X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com ([209.85.218.222] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTP id 4120896 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:57:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.218.222; envelope-from=lehanover@gmail.com Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so1059617bwz.5 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:57:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=rK/EoVowXBdRWbR/mzW/m1iAHVWyN+7nyhUX4aPk56M=; b=dqh/HANyK89h7s3RtNVHcY2NzRpQ0DDebwdt5IDtfSuf/4ZkdlVN1m1a/Y9WvdVFds sRGM7BbF63yCMYcExGPngHM0fH9envnL6NPkQNDDOTVz5sX/HL4jSVc96E+ACYLpJR6Y /kgBHVIGX1Xs4wSFM2+i3qlhKp52SVe34AGts= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fZLlaSIHXoOMtkyVoAisJ/pCGh9cthHZMhI6BUCkkeRq2iRH1u9FyjEg2g3zqjk+Id IHJ6Gzg7OPnY2JzKUi7AhzBe4WRpzpCYHCjY19vndJvaUkZomTUUsyQaNCM8GKfyTRSQ QP0boUQIBDFj+Lfl3Uw16thtbaacs8baq1kfU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.20.17 with SMTP id d17mr1246686bkb.195.1265900223647; Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:57:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:57:03 -0500 Message-ID: <1ab24f411002110657m5c686f12w3bd1d59625a2436b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Contr-rotating propellers From: Lynn Hanover To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325559c4a26d03e047f545dfb --000325559c4a26d03e047f545dfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill Bradburry wrote: > > There have been a lot of these planes. Howard Hughes built the XF-11 > and damn nearly killed himself with it when it crashed in California. > > > > http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Contra-rotating_propellers > > > The LARC website from NASA had some studies of contra-rotating props that showed some significant efficiency increases when the blades were pitched and spaced correctly. It also allowed more power to be absorbed with a short prop, a problem that was starting to become a real headache for designers at the end of WWII. I am also a proponent of "suck air from around the spinner so that the inner portion of the prop becomes useful" school of thought. http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/EngineCowling2.jpg The Sun&Fun museum (Florida Air Museum) on the south side of the Lakeland airport has the actual wind tunnel models of that Hughs plane and a gearbox from it's propeller dive system on display. They also own the only "Pogo" plane. Recently restored. If you visit Sun&Fun or the Museum note that the speed limit on Countyline road (4 lane divided, limited access rural) is 45 MPH and is strictly enforced. Just up I-4 from Lakeland is the Kermit Weeks Fantisy of Flight Museum. Many of the display aircraft are flown monthly. A must see attraction. http://www.fantasyofflight.com/ Lynn E. Hanover --000325559c4a26d03e047f545dfb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bill Bradburry wrote:
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> There have been a lot of these p= lanes.=A0 Howard Hughes built the XF-11
> and damn nearly killed him= self with it when it crashed in California.
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= >=A0 http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Contr= a-rotating_propellers
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The LARC website from NASA had some studies of = contra-rotating props
that showed some significant efficiency increases= when the blades were
pitched and spaced correctly.=A0 It also allowed = more power to be absorbed
with a short prop, a problem that was starting to become a real headache for designers at the end of WWII.

I am also a proponent of "s= uck air from around the spinner so that the
inner portion of the prop b= ecomes useful" school of thought.

http://ernest.isa-geek.org/Delta/Pictures/EngineCowling= 2.jpg
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The Sun&Fun museum (Florida Air Museum) on the south side of the L= akeland airport has the actual wind tunnel models of that Hughs plane and a= gearbox from=A0it's propeller dive system on display.
They also own the only "Pogo" plane. Recently restored. If y= ou visit Sun&Fun or the Museum note that the speed limit on Countyline = road (4 lane divided, limited access rural) is 45 MPH and is strictly enfor= ced.
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Just up I-4 from Lakeland is the Kermit Weeks Fantisy of Flight Museum= . Many of the display aircraft are flown monthly. A must see attraction. http://www.fantasyofflight.com/
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Lynn E. Hanover
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