X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao102.cox.net ([68.230.241.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.2) with ESMTP id 4106225 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:37:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.44; envelope-from=rv-4mike@cox.net Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20100201023710.VBFD8308.fed1rmmtao102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net> for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:37:10 -0500 Received: from willsPC ([68.105.86.80]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id cSdA1d00T1k005Q04SdBJD; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:37:11 -0500 X-VR-Score: -140.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=3OYv9oSQMPl2mzQJct9Z0gr0/14v7p3aTRAVsPGESI0= c=1 sm=1 a=eChVvQv4o_YA:10 a=XruvlouZCDbGUgEaRUiNZQ==:17 a=mYoklJlXQq7fNKyln3kA:9 a=p0m18AAl4kpv-rYGVMoA:7 a=81wWfKTC5--f6SJ6Rwqy0-EoxEoA:4 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=OdwZ_4S-oAjC8sxXiKUA:9 a=wY4U6ZZDkwUew4MJ5e0A:7 a=7xRU47YMUI0vs4ywBFcatJ3Kdt4A:4 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=XruvlouZCDbGUgEaRUiNZQ==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <0FC793E8735245EE99B23B26D4BA4FC5@willsPC> From: "Mike Wills" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Airplane For Sale Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:37:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01CAA2A4.65FC99F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01CAA2A4.65FC99F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Al, Hope you wont be upset if we don't wish you too much luck - I'm sorry = to see you let it go after having committed so much of your life to get = it done. I sure hope you don't end up regretting your decision to sell = after its gone. I'm sure all of us here see the rotary install as a plus, but I fear = that we are in a very small minority. I get a lot of people looking at = mine and complimenting me on my installation, but the vast majority of = people who see it, even the complimentary ones, make it clear that its = way too far out on the edge for them. Anyway, I do wish you luck. Hope I can get a chance to see it in person = some time before its gone. Mike=20 From: Al Gietzen=20 Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:59 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Airplane For Sale Mike wrote: It will be interesting to see how much success you have in selling. Is = your asking price in line with conventionally engined comparable = Velocities? I've always thought I'd probably end up being buried in my = airplane because I've always figured it would be next to impossible to = find a buyer willing to pay what I think its worth. Yes; it will be interesting. Velocities come basically in two flavors - = 200-220 hp SE, and 250-300hp XL. The XL is 6" wider and a foot longer. = I have an SE, but the performance of an XL and with lower fuel burn. = I'm pricing it between the two, based on list prices for the nice ones a = little while back. In the last year prices have dropped, so it's hard = to tell what any of them will sell for. Two-three years ago, something = in the neighborhood of $165 would have been reasonable, now I think = about $140. We'll see. If I'm lucky, I might get about $1/hr for my = time. I'm convinced that the goal I set out for - an engine in many ways = better than a Lyc, has been met. I will feature the engine as a "plus". = Of course I need to find a prospective buyer who will consider it long = enough to see that it's true. Wish me luck. And any of you that have, = say, more than 500 hrs on your rotary, and would like to provide a brief = 'testimonial' on your positive experience with a rotary, ah; it could = help. Another Velocity owner volunteered this: "I wanted to thank you for = taking us flying in your plane last year. What amazed me was the = performance and how smooth the engine was. What really surprised me was = that you could lean that 250+ hp engine to 10 gph while flying level at = about 160-170 kts. The climb performance was outstanding for a fixed = pitch prop. Overall, I was really impressed with everything I saw."=20 If nothing else it makes me feel goodJ. Al G ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01CAA2A4.65FC99F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Al,
 
 Hope you wont be upset if we = don=92t wish you=20 too much luck - I'm sorry to see you let it go after having committed so = much of=20 your life to get it done. I sure hope you don=92t end up regretting your = decision=20 to sell after its gone.
 
 I'm sure all of us here see the = rotary=20 install as a plus, but I fear that we are in a very small minority. I = get a lot=20 of people looking at mine and complimenting me on my installation, but = the vast=20 majority of people who see it, even the complimentary ones, = make it=20 clear that its way too far out on the edge for them.
 
 Anyway, I do wish you luck. Hope I can = get a=20 chance to see it in person some time before its gone.
 
Mike 

From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 5:59 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Airplane For Sale

Mike=20 wrote:

 It will be = interesting to=20 see how much success you have in selling. Is your asking price in line = with=20 conventionally engined comparable Velocities? I've always thought I'd = probably=20 end up being buried in my airplane because I've always figured it would = be next=20 to impossible to find a buyer willing to pay what I think its worth.

Yes; it = will be=20 interesting. Velocities come basically in two flavors =96 200-220 hp SE, = and=20 250-300hp XL.  The XL is 6=94 wider and a foot longer.  I have = an SE,=20 but the performance of an XL and with lower fuel burn.  I=92m = pricing it=20 between the two, based on list prices for the nice ones a little while=20 back.  In the last year prices have dropped, so it=92s hard to tell = what any=20 of them will sell for.  Two-three years ago, something in the = neighborhood=20 of $165 would have been reasonable, now I think about $140. =  We=92ll=20 see.  If I=92m lucky, I might get about $1/hr for my = time.

 

I=92m = convinced that=20 the goal I set out for =96 an engine in many ways better than a Lyc, has = been met.=20  I will feature the engine as a =93plus=94.  Of course I need = to find a=20 prospective buyer who will consider it long enough to see that it=92s = true. =20 Wish me luck.  And any of you that have, say, more than 500 hrs on = your=20 rotary, and would like to provide a brief =91testimonial=92 on your = positive=20 experience with a rotary, ah; it could help.

 

Another=20 Velocity owner = volunteered=20 this: =93I wanted to thank you for = taking us=20 flying in your plane last year. What amazed me was the performance = and how=20 smooth the engine was. What really surprised me was that you could lean = that=20 250+ hp engine to 10 gph while flying level at about 160-170 kts. = The climb=20 performance was outstanding for a fixed pitch prop. Overall, I = was really impressed with everything I = saw.=94 

 

If nothing = else it=20 makes me feel goodJ.

 

Al=20 G

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