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Worn brushes would likely cause a lowered voltage, since the brushes carry 'excitation' current to the field. Lower field voltage = lower output voltage.
Try adding a 2nd voltmeter that directly measures the voltage on the 'sense' terminal on the regulator. If voltage there is the same as your buss voltage (and too high), that is a strong indicator that the regulator is bad or out of adjustment.
Charlie
On 12/20/2009 11:49 AM, David Leonard wrote:
HI Al, yes, I have been considering that. My field is external like yours. In that supply I have a 10amp fuse and the switch itself, along with the necessary crimps on the spade connectors. I suppose I could tryed a temporary short across those connections to see if that that fixed the problem, but it did not. Also voltage measured at the field is the same as on my engine monitor.
I wonder if we are wearing out the brushes more quickly because of our high continuous RPM.
-- David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Al Gietzen <ALVentures@cox.net <mailto:ALVentures@cox.net>> wrote:
Dave;
Regarding the varying, or higher charging voltage, I’ve had
similar behavior. I’ve determined that a possible cause is the
difference where you are measuring the voltage, and what the
regulator is seeing. I provide the field current from a separate
source, having undone the internal connection from the alternator
output. You may have a similar setup. That means that any
resistance – voltage drops – from the battery to the alternator
field, will result in the regulator seeing a lower voltage, and
increasing the output.
I have two potential contact resistance points in that circuit;
the battery contactor, and a pullable breaker that I use to
turnoff the field current if I want. A couple of weeks ago when I
started up the voltage (at the EM2) was reading over 15V, and
triggering the over limit light. After a couple of resets of the
breaker, and a couple of shutdowns (turning off battery
contactor), the voltage settled down at 14-14.5.
I’m not fully convinced the contacts were the problem, but I think
it likely. May be relevant to your situation.
Early this year I had replaced the voltage regulator after seeing
high voltage. Next time I’ll replace the pullable breaker or the
battery contactor.
(I bet the skiing at mammoth was great, and the weather beautiful.)
Al
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*Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:52 PM
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*Subject:* [FlyRotary] Real Life No Alternator test
I have been having an intermittent and slowly worsening problem
with high voltage. Over most of the last 30 hrs or so it settled
in around 14.6 or 14.7 volts. But on yesterday's flight home from
Mammoth I noticed it hovering around 15V and some of my avionics
were acting up, so I decided to do a little alternator out experiment.
I turned off the alternator and all unnecessary draw - radio,
strobes, Blue Mountain EFIS, electric AI. I kept on the engine
instrumentation, transponder, music (a most critical item given
the beauty of the sunset), audio panel, rocky mountain
microencoder, and trio auto pilot (also allowing me to more fully
enjoy the flight). I was showing 8 amps to run the engine bus
(coils and injectors).
With my 33 amp hour Panasonic SLA battery I flew for 45 minutes
and 200 miles over the Sierras, passing dozens of airports, and
into the LA basin before it got dark enough that I decided to turn
the lights on. The plan was to turn the alternator back on when
the voltage dropped below 11.5 volts but it never dropped below
11.9V. It did charge at a brisk 60amps when I turned the
alternator back on so there couldn't have been too much time
left. Still, that did quite a bit of confidence building
regarding the ability to carry on in the event of an alternator
failure.
I also set a personal record for the most beautiful and clear
sunset I have seen while flying. I could see San Nicholas Island
from over 150 miles away.
Time to install a spare alternator.
-- David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net <http://n4vy.rotaryroster.net/>
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