X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.24] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c4) with ESMTP id 4030781 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:22:18 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.92.24; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so850929qwb.25 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:21:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jllHfvh7FZ4vYKkx8paeEKD6wjyF8yhxbG81JsmpOX4=; b=x+pg0i3vsSCFViu5xsskcAH2Xjeis50y0JxNESZksfi+4jgFts1lfTUSGowOX6Mbdi 5i0RXEFrYPZAcTF3+5ioqsNRd/WmhKctMRVU0IrRWdBhlnQ04nTnvysMya9sWHQbpX7D cUevS1crxqkT8NGMqcKtZegtQY6M//MBq/CEY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=HEXCUsvDHS8XEG5SKQpG3MjCfqgjY4eaQ+1zuQtqqd/CseIqa9+jGIyGj8Y1SWtvbK /DADX009trd/wAu4baGYrggroZH/7ou7Ml0USFsouqNOZe4FEauCy1wu+10HxBvI1Jks niVdk5orAw3UXFTCHLPu9iNX3xn17gkwEo4Tg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.224.78.17 with SMTP id i17mr2916629qak.359.1261236101451; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:21:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:21:41 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1d5b73abdccc7094 Message-ID: <1b4b137c0912190721v3b264735q81eaecf245c68c5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil Cooling From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00c09f8a4f18ce0fe6047b166987 --00c09f8a4f18ce0fe6047b166987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just an update on my RV-8 / 20B oil cooling experiments. On the theory that airflow patterns inside the cowl were blocking airflow through oil cooler, I installed a partial exit duct behind the radiator directing the airflow downward toward the cowl outlet. It looked very restrictive but flight tests showed almost no affect on water cooling (which is OK) but a significant improvement in oil cooling. I further restricted the airflow through the rad by putting some roof ridge vent material inside the inlet diffuser. This gave a tiny increase in water temp but a further improvement in oil cooling. Long story short, after several more tests it became apparent that back pressure under the cowl was having a major effect on the oil cooling. I have no idea why my instrument did not read the pressure correctly. It works fine on the bench and is properly referenced to the static system in the plane. The temptation is to keep changing the cooling outlet scheme until the internal cowl back pressure is low enough to get the cooling good enough. My belief is that this would lead to a very high drag solution. You may remember the experiment I did by flying with the cowl removed. The cooling was never a problem then (except perhaps too much cooling) but the drag was enormous. The fuel burn was 60% higher at the test airspeed of 130 mph. The conclusion I eventually came to was that the rad (because of it's relatively low air flow resistance) is hogging the airflow capability of the cowl cooling outlet. (cowl flap did not have enough effect to fix the problem). Keep in mind that the oil cooler is a thick AC evaporator core that is very restrictive. The current experiment is to replace it with a much less restrictive (to airflow) oil cooler. I found the largest cooler that would fit in the same location as the AC core and I'm using the same diffuser as before (slightly modified to fit the larger face of the new cooler). This cooler is only 2" thick and core volume is 30% less than the AC core. It is slightly larger in volume than an RX-7 cooler. Without any back pressure (flying with cowl off), the AC core had way more than enough cooling capacity (146 F oil temp on a 93 degree day) so I'm hoping that this smaller cooler will be enough. Should be ready to flight test it this week. I should point out another symptom. Power setting (and therefore airspeed) had very little effect on the cooling (i.e., it didn't get much hotter at high power as long as airspeed went up as well. Things got hot fast in climb however. This also indicated to me that cooling was limited by airflow through the system rather than by the oil cooler's ability to transfer the heat to the air. If the cooler is simply too small, more airflow will not help much. Tracy --00c09f8a4f18ce0fe6047b166987 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just an update on my RV-8 / 20B=A0 oil cooling experiments.=A0

= On the theory that airflow patterns inside the cowl were blocking airflow t= hrough oil cooler, I installed a partial exit duct behind the radiator dire= cting the airflow downward toward the cowl outlet.=A0 It looked very restri= ctive but flight tests showed almost no affect on water cooling (which is O= K)=A0 but a significant improvement in oil cooling.=A0=A0 I further restric= ted the airflow through the rad by putting some roof ridge vent material in= side the inlet diffuser.=A0 This gave a tiny increase in water temp but a f= urther improvement in oil cooling.=A0=A0 Long story short,=A0 after several= more tests it became apparent that back pressure under the cowl was having= a major effect on the oil cooling.=A0=A0 I have no idea why my instrument = did not read the pressure correctly.=A0 It works fine on the bench and is p= roperly referenced to the static system in the plane.=A0=A0 The temptation = is to keep changing the cooling outlet scheme until the internal cowl back = pressure is low enough to get the cooling good enough.=A0 My belief is that= this would lead to a very high drag solution.=A0 You may remember the expe= riment I did by flying with the cowl removed.=A0 The cooling was never a pr= oblem then (except perhaps too much cooling) but the drag was enormous.=A0 = The fuel burn was 60% higher at the test airspeed of 130 mph.

The conclusion I eventually came to was that the rad (because of it'= ;s relatively low air flow resistance) is hogging the airflow capability of= the cowl cooling outlet.=A0 (cowl flap did not have enough effect to fix t= he problem). =A0 Keep in mind that the oil cooler is a thick AC evaporator = core that is very restrictive.=A0=A0 The current experiment is to replace i= t with a much less restrictive (to airflow) oil cooler.=A0 I found the larg= est cooler that would fit in the same location as the AC core and I'm u= sing the same diffuser as before (slightly modified to fit the larger face = of the new cooler).=A0 This cooler is only 2" thick and core volume is= 30% less than the AC core.=A0 It is slightly larger in volume than an RX-7= cooler.=A0 Without any back pressure (flying with cowl off), the AC core h= ad way more than enough cooling capacity (146 F oil temp on a 93 degree day= ) so I'm hoping that this smaller cooler will be enough.=A0 Should be r= eady to flight test it this week.

I should point out another symptom. Power setting (and therefore airspe= ed) had very little effect on the cooling=A0 (i.e., it didn't get much = hotter at high power as long as airspeed went up as well.=A0=A0 Things got = hot fast in climb however.=A0 This also indicated to me that cooling was li= mited by airflow through the system rather than by the oil cooler's abi= lity to transfer the heat to the air.=A0 If the cooler is simply too small,= more airflow will not help much.=A0

Tracy
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