X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from web1116.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com ([74.6.114.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with SMTP id 4024302 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:19:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.6.114.48; envelope-from=admin@haaspowerair.com Received: (qmail 54595 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Dec 2009 20:18:35 -0000 Message-ID: <159879.53403.qm@web1116.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xztniPkVM1kujPujiw8u0AiJQJBm6RZIUPpDUOw1H98CX.E9PlIxpy.m47YRaBI2BWPOtAo0xfmHo_JiskgU_dXVWrcPG78lby6ti5Cs4okod2khaXIhdx4gkrKHmhW2.03y0ZhwKKEPMu.in9iXoucnrA2irSzF6TF_sSkzaWzULPV8YQmRSWvQ_tS6rAxTw_tN15Nlgfvz3GU2wGhtW6Htc_zQX_VK2SRkLMOK_Q_VzingJX_h9uxdIFgwrwvzF8gP4XphxbGbr0Dlertdn8dHt_rv.2IlXg23OZsq1HIzOIIQZQE1._lW5xsq9GTbd8HLdpR0i6DUheawri5MonMrzKdxMbutiaJcMa.KqQ_HqoSWbk4yxMLWBJOuG4Rq1LgUrcERXKWS5noat3o89DgOZ9eLNHADbsDyW3RaT9TNDYggALVb2mKLI49q8EvHOauoVpss3uLMStz4gp8CCYmVEBtPGrtvvW45Q55pkPz1JqXPahli1sSZhy_8pN7tHM44gSKGZIat5_wFZildzts9cSwDYJWimoSzr1paQuTWqQnsxxyK8F3ZK7LLoUESN60- Received: from [75.174.166.58] by web1116.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:18:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:18:34 -0800 (PST) From: stephen haas Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cabin Heat (Was Oil Cooler) To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1411586655-1260994714=:53403" --0-1411586655-1260994714=:53403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been running one of these for 5 + years and 300 hours. =C2=A0 http://www.jcwhitney.com/Under_Dash-mount_Heater_with_Defroster_Duct_Hose?I= D=3D12;0;0;0;100001;ProductName;0;0;0;0;2002939;0;0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0It puts out ALOT=C2=A0 of heat, is relatively light, not too bad a pr= ice and has built in ducting for defrost or remote heating.. And I fly in -= 20f weather quite often. I did try to build a=C2=A0DIY unit but found a muffin fan doesn't like to p= ush or pull air through=C2=A0a finned radiator. it takes a squirel caged fa= n to produce enough static pressure to get good air flow. By the time I wou= ld have bought all the needed componants this one made financial sense.. =C2=A0 YMMV. =C2=A0 --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Thomas Mann wrote: From: Thomas Mann Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cabin Heat (Was Oil Cooler) To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 12:38 PM > =C2=A0I have a 7=E2=80=9D x 7=E2=80=9D heater core, and it puts out at le= ast 1500 watts, or more. < =C2=A0 Al, I too am in the process of installing a rotary in a canard. I have looked a= t putting the heater core in the =E2=80=98hell hole=E2=80=99 and ducting th= e heated are to where it=E2=80=99s needed. My plane is a little different i= n that it has two 2 inch ducts running down each side already that I can ta= p into. =C2=A0 What I=E2=80=99m wondering is do I really need a fan?=20 I=E2=80=99m thinking I could catch air via an NACA scoop and use that inste= ad of a blower. =C2=A0 Now I know that the source is going to be cold air but when I run my heater= in my truck on a 20 below day here in the wonderful state of Nebraska, the= source air is from the outside and it heats up just fine.=20 =C2=A0 I like the Idea of keeping anything electrical out of that location if it i= s possible while at the same time shortening up the lines to the core. =C2=A0 T Mann =C2=A0 =C2=A0 --0-1411586655-1260994714=:53403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been running one of these for 5 += years and 300 hours.
 
 
 It puts out ALOT  of heat, is relatively light, not too bad= a price and has built in ducting for defrost or remote heating.. And I fly= in - 20f weather quite often.
I did try to build a DIY unit but found a muffin fan doesn't like= to push or pull air through a finned radiator. it takes a squirel cag= ed fan to produce enough static pressure to get good air flow. By the time = I would have bought all the needed componants this one made financial sense= ..
 
YMMV.
 

--- On Wed, 12/16/09, Thomas Mann <tmann@n200lz= .com> wrote:

From: Thomas Mann <tmann@n200lz.com>
Sub= ject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cabin Heat (Was Oil Cooler)
To: "Rotary motors in = aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date: Wednesday, December = 16, 2009, 12:38 PM

>  I have a 7=E2=80= =9D x 7=E2=80=9D heater core, and it puts out at least 1500 watts, or more.= <

 

Al,

I too am in the process of installing a rot= ary in a canard. I have looked at putting the heater core in the =E2=80=98h= ell hole=E2=80=99 and ducting the heated are to where it=E2=80=99s needed. = My plane is a little different in that it has two 2 inch ducts running down= each side already that I can tap into.

 

What I=E2=80=99m wondering is do I really n= eed a fan?

I=E2=80=99m thinking I could catch air via = an NACA scoop and use that instead of a blower.

 

Now I know that the source is going to be c= old air but when I run my heater in my truck on a 20 below day here in the = wonderful state of Nebraska, the source air is from the outside and it heat= s up just fine.

 

I like the Idea of keeping anything electri= cal out of that location if it is possible while at the same time shortenin= g up the lines to the core.

 

T Mann

 

 

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