X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.24] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 4024072 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:27:53 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.24; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HuHH1d0021smiN4A2uTJDS; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:27:19 +0000 Received: from gregiv ([24.6.75.252]) by OMTA20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HuSz1d0015ScAtC8guT3oj; Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:27:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Cabin Heat (Was Oil Cooler) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:32:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A5F_01CA7E3B.07F86510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A5F_01CA7E3B.07F86510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Mark; We've been looking at the same things with our install. We talked to = our exhaust guy, and he feels that with the exhaust temps that these = rotaries have, that it might not be a good idea, (the muff). Next step = was hot water, plumbing, and a heater core inside some where, which was = sort of a negative idea. We kept all of our cooling lines exterior, so = that a coolant leak wouldn't happen inside at about 10K feet, and 200+ = knots, not a good scenario. J.C. Whitney has a small electric heater = that has some possibilities, so we are looking into that and some other = ideas. Greg Ward Lancair 20B N178RG in Progress ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Steitle=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Cabin Heat (Was Oil Cooler) Jeff, I'm considering going to a heat muff since there is sooooooo much = exhaust heat that's just going to waste. I was going to incorporate it = into the heat shield of my newest muffler design. Of course, I'll need = to add a CO detector in the cabin for safety. Mark On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jeff Whaley = wrote: Well with 3 coolers already, I didn=92t want to add a heater core = and all the plumbing =96 I may move my scavenge point from oil cooler to = water radiator as it is below the engine (uphill for warm air) and = closer to the firewall (fewer corners to turn). I picked the oil cooler = because at the time my oil temp was higher than water temp =96 now = it=92s the other way around =85 also the outlet of oil cooler as = installed is less likely to get contaminated with exhaust fumes. Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0A5F_01CA7E3B.07F86510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Mark;
We've been looking at = the same=20 things with our install.  We talked to our exhaust guy, and he = feels that=20 with the exhaust temps that these rotaries have, that it might not be a = good=20 idea, (the muff).  Next step was hot water, plumbing, and a heater = core=20 inside some where, which was sort of a negative idea.  We kept all = of our=20 cooling lines exterior, so that a coolant leak wouldn't happen inside at = about=20 10K feet, and 200+ knots, not a good scenario.  J.C. Whitney has a = small=20 electric heater that has some possibilities, so we are looking into that = and=20 some other ideas.
Greg Ward
Lancair 20B N178RG in=20 Progress
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark = Steitle=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, = 2009 1:41=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Cabin Heat = (Was Oil=20 Cooler)

Jeff,
I'm considering going to a heat muff since there is = sooooooo=20 much exhaust heat that's just going to waste.  I was going to = incorporate=20 it into the heat shield of my newest muffler design.  Of course, = I'll=20 need to add a CO detector in the cabin for safety.
 
Mark

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jeff Whaley = <jwhaley@datacast.com> = wrote:

Well with 3=20 coolers already, I didn=92t want to add a heater core and all the = plumbing =96 I=20 may move my scavenge point from oil cooler to water radiator as it = is below=20 the engine (uphill for warm air) and closer to the firewall (fewer = corners=20 to turn). I picked the oil cooler because at the time my oil temp = was higher=20 than water temp =96 now it=92s the other way around =85 also the = outlet of oil=20 cooler as installed is less likely to get contaminated with exhaust=20 fumes.

Jeff

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