AL,
Thanks for your explanations, there are some intricate details
about the Mazda engine that I am either unaware of or don’t fully
understand.
I wasn’t aware that the engine out pressure could be 125
psi with the return regulated to 80 psi. According to the feedback from
Fluidyne the coolers are pressure-tested to 300 psi. My oil cooling
capacity has increased tremendously so the flow rate through the coolers must
be good; I DID check all lines after a brief engine run, post-install to ensure
no leaks and that all lines were hot (that was my low-tech flow test).
One thing I have noticed after installing the second oil cooler,
is the oil pressure gauge has some fluctuation or bounce at 5500 rpm that wasn’t
there with only one cooler (Mazda or First Fluidyne), so there is a difference,
but again I’m not sure why. It is something that I’ll
continue to monitor - we are still flying local.
Jeff
From: Rotary motors in
aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:45 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Oil cooler
Al, no I do not measure
“before and after”; it’s measured at block output near
standard oil filter pedestal and is feed to PSRU input … see attached
(this photo shows the first cooler input, the pressure sender and
the return line from second cooler) … if I understand the oil flow
correctly, this is after the coolers.
My max oil pressure was 80
psi when I had one cooler and is still max 80 psi with 2 coolers –
typical operating pressure is 75 psi at 5500 rpm.
Jeff
Jeff;
There is a bypass valve in the oil return circuit that regulates
the max oil pressure. That’s probably setup for 80 psi in your
engine. There is also a pressure relief bypass just after the pump exit
that is probably for 125 psi (I forget what the stock one is). So
conceivably the drop through the coolers could be 45 psi.
Not that it’s a problem as long as there is sufficient flow
to maintain the regulated pressure. But it could be reducing the flow
rate, which would reduce cooling capacity, and it could mean there is 125 psi
in the lines from the engine; and to the cooler end tank.
The geared oil pump is (approximately) a positive displacement
pump. It puts out 13-15 gpm at 5500 -6000 engine RPM. I just think
it’s a good idea to know what sort of pressure drop your dealing with for
any oil cooler you put on your engine, other than the Mazda cooler. I
still believe that in the two oil cooler ruptures, and resulting in-flight
fires that our friend Chuck Harbert experienced, the pressure drop was a
contributing factor. He had three coolers in series, two up in the nose
of a Velocity, along with the concomitant lines and fittings. The first
in the series was the one that ruptured both times. Undoubtedly running
at the pump bypass pressure (whatever that was), coupled with a little fatigue
from vibrations in the lines, and pressure ripple from the pump . . . well;
just my opinion.
Al G