X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f228.google.com ([209.85.220.228] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c3) with ESMTP id 3995840 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:31:13 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.228; envelope-from=cozy4pilot@gmail.com Received: by fxm28 with SMTP id 28so3333145fxm.5 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jn2T2D6PhuMv7v53IK501MjlxFoPRBqqc38QkWq1MEk=; b=apWWS1+lgez7eNvThHnxDii92w1TKzbjqxE2keqPBfoJvFO1/8q00Pwu2LZMnc7Nvw O9+pd8JYoaQsKzHoZf0IrQqkaWLp4vp0hqlB9+C+v5QCuMVfMDHfly+RtM+a8PL3z7P2 x61VBgZAQFqClVy3zhr9YuIndpwN/+iRRH03g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=JRZnpD7qxgHiNsWujL/5pesqhhF1DhqUDd1six+FX9La/7D7TbIlNHCZkIyfI9I9sI Z6GF3jYWfVF8HBCD5rSUZiURIlWH4RVrqA0vzAI8JqZAIKPm4+kxeHQpFN4aQyAMPC+N yh5aZLu0Th4TmJC/WzDuCRUSRy6M6qUzS6dvk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.88.137 with SMTP id a9mr1509576wef.119.1259602235819; Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:30:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:30:35 -0500 Message-ID: <7a025aa00911300930u7f214f72qb9ac4ae5b72c773a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: First start on new engine - sort of..... From: Stephen Brooks To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7858bd30934047999fff1 --0016e6d7858bd30934047999fff1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I started the new engine this weekend, after getting the intermittent spark issue resolved, only to discover that I have some other issue. When I tried to start the engine, it popped several times on successive turns, but wouldn't start. After trying several times, I did get it to start, but it seemed to only be running on one rotor. It died after 10-15 seconds, and I could not get it to restart, so I pushed it back inside and charged the battery. I tried it again yesterday, and had a very hard time getting it to start. It finally started, and I ran it for about a minute. It ran very rough, and felt to me like it was running on only one rotor again. After shutting it down, I felt both rotor housings to determine which one was running, and I was surprised that both felt the same temperature. I suppose that this means that it was running on both rotors, but very rough, and not much power. Both were warm, but definitely not hot after only a minute or so of running. I get a consistent popping when cranking it over, that feels like the timing is way off. I double checked the static timing and verified it was 35 BTC. I tried moving it to about 25 BTC, and while I did not get it to start, the popping was the same. I also verified that the injectors were wired correctly, by checking each one from the EC-2 connector. The injector diagnostic, and ignition diagnostic check fine. The only thing that I noticed that was odd was that while cranking, the EM-3 showed RPM (250-300), but while running it was reading zero. It has been several months since I've added any fuel, so I was thinking of draining the fuel tank, and putting in some fresh fuel, but I suspect that is not the issue. It seems to me that the timimng is way off or something. Steve Brooks --0016e6d7858bd30934047999fff1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I started the new engine this weekend, after getting the intermittent spark= issue resolved, only to discover that I have some other issue.
When I t= ried to start the engine, it popped several times on successive turns, but = wouldn't start.=A0 After trying several times, I did get it to start, b= ut it seemed to only be running on one rotor.=A0 It died after 10-15 second= s, and I could not get it to restart, so I pushed it back inside and charge= d the battery.

I tried it again yesterday, and had a very hard time getting it to star= t.=A0 It finally started, and I ran it for about a minute.=A0 It ran very r= ough, and felt to me like it was running on only one rotor again.=A0 After = shutting it down, I felt both rotor housings to determine which one was run= ning, and I was surprised that both felt the same temperature.=A0 I suppose= that this means that it was running on both rotors, but very rough, and no= t much power.=A0 Both were warm, but definitely not hot after only a minute= or so of running.

I get a consistent popping when cranking it over, that feels like the t= iming is way off.=A0 I double checked the static timing and verified it was= 35 BTC.=A0 I tried moving it to about 25 BTC, and while I did not get it t= o start, the popping was the same.

I also verified that the injectors were wired correctly, by checking ea= ch one from the EC-2 connector.=A0 The injector diagnostic, and ignition di= agnostic check fine.=A0 The only thing that I noticed that was odd was that= while cranking, the EM-3 showed RPM (250-300), but while running it was re= ading zero.

It has been several months since I've added any fuel, so I was thin= king of draining the fuel tank, and putting in some fresh fuel, but I suspe= ct that is not the issue.
It seems to me that the timimng is way off or = something.

Steve Brooks


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