X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from aspensprings.uwyo.edu ([129.72.10.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c2) with ESMTPS id 3985565 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:46:18 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=129.72.10.32; envelope-from=SBoese@uwyo.edu Received: from ponyexpress-ht1.uwyo.edu (ponyexpress-ht1.uwyo.edu [10.84.60.208]) by aspensprings.uwyo.edu (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id nAMHjfxr004620 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:45:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from SBoese@uwyo.edu) Received: from ponyexpress-mb5.uwyo.edu ([fe80::9c55:bfd9:7a5b:5a4]) by ponyexpress-ht1 ([10.84.60.208]) with mapi; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:45:41 -0700 From: "Steven W. Boese" To: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:45:41 -0700 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Ground isn't ground Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Ground isn't ground Thread-Index: Acprisj8iVcA6oRhThGMN16AqHLp1gADBNvu Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Steve, Thank you for posting the information on the solution for the spark problem= . The results are of particular interest to me since the routing of my gro= und to the starter sounds like it is identical to yours. The test I made t= hat showed similar symptoms was based on the possibility that the EC2 and t= he CAS return were grounded in two different places and that noise generate= d in the ground between these two locations was degrading the CAS signal. = If I understand correctly, the noise generated due to the starter current p= assing through the engine assembly is being injected into the CAS signals e= ven though the CAS circuits and the engine block are electrically isolated.= =20 Benefiting from your troubles, I am fabricating a longer ground cable for i= nstallation in my plane. My inclination is to add this cable to the starte= r and retain the original one to the front cover. Removing the cable to th= e front cover would result in the ground for alternator passing through the= big Oreo cookie. Although the alternator currents are not as large as th= e starter current, they are still significant, noisy, and more likely to ca= use problems during normal operation rather than just during starting. Steve Boese =