X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.26] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c2) with ESMTP id 3985385 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:39:51 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.92.26; envelope-from=cozy4pilot@gmail.com Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so968234qwb.25 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:39:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lfg61/M4mdINNbxwokHioitC78F+IMTUpCUiRmqjigY=; b=q9HxB7n1PsOORmBtBqgsImXz7WqqthaFk3wPh+Ham1jYB4sN79hHqk73k0M1I9PNUG iRDie+Og8CfCgoIHO7vk98XV5yFlpVfl97q/m5TCVp5YoKrWKH95JGBbmOu3FM3bNR7D 2LZ97mDCYGypqLvFNS1J1RvVr3qjW92JqSeSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PXUSGu8YnwgAFRtIbzG5pBC5HklPnwIapibItpi6tv5PdJW2BB9L4YSwoqN3kN3ejf cGy+jLPjlyFOu5zRtMIr9w3nxBoJCSWBWkxHRTOHwqb1vz+CwNzvLU1haKplPNR6iI7K BlVbeHS/pNsvjbCkjQrj7Kb4+0EMuFYBNSkfU= Received: by 10.224.53.90 with SMTP id l26mr1885304qag.102.1258893555714; Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:39:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from ?192.168.1.101? (nc-71-49-37-191.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.49.37.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm9250640qwj.13.2009.11.22.04.39.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:39:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B0930F0.9030407@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:39:12 -0500 From: Steve Brooks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: need sanity check References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wschertz@comcast.net wrote: > > Steve, > > You may have a marginal ground between the engine and the battery. > When cranking, the starter dumps high current through the marginal > ground, and the potential at that point rises, If the EC-2 is grounded > through the same ground, then This would look like low voltage to the > EC-2 and coils, even if the battery terminal voltage was not drawn > down much. I would check all the engine ground connections. A little > corrosion could build up and cause this effect. > Bill, I have a large cable that runs from the battery to the engine block, and it is just for the starter. I have another ground cable, 12 gauge, that runs from the battery to the distribution buss for everything else. Same thing on the plus side of the battery. Big cable to the starter, and #12 to the distribution buss. I think that the easiest fix, since I have two batteries, is to power all of the engine stuff from the forward battery, and then use the aft battery just for cranking. I still would like to know what has changed though. You may be right about some corrosion or something on a connection, but everything looks nice and clean, and all mounted inside the plane. Something though has changed to cause the problem. Steve > > > Bill Schertz > > > I had extended the CAS wiring when I replaced the engine, so I decided > to reroute the shielded CAS wiring, so that I could eliminate the > unshielded wires, which were about 12" long. Same problem. > > I am struggling with what to try next. This problem started before I > swapped the engine, as it was very hard to get started, though for > three years prior to that, I had no issues, and it started easily. > > Has anyone else seen this type of problem, or have any suggestions ?Re > > > > ------------------------------- >