X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3c2) with ESMTP id 3978261 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:12:08 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from fcd-mail05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([172.16.5.24]) by FCD-MAIL03.FCDATA.PRIVATE with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:11:33 -0600 Received: from fcd-mail05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([4.4.5.9]) by fcd-mail05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([4.4.5.9]) with mapi; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:11:31 -0600 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:09:56 -0600 Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Dynon EFIS D-100 Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Dynon EFIS D-100 Thread-Index: AcpmzKVUkWT1PBKfRVqGe0i6qphKVgAI6qXG Message-ID: <6A3D27B02C7348499A682286EDB2310502261DC10C@fcd-mail05.FCDATA.PRIVATE> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: cbarber@texasattorney.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2009 19:11:33.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C211B40:01CA66F0] Yeah, I re-read the offers and the forums and you are correct. ________________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Bill Bradburry [bbradburry@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:53 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dynon EFIS D-100 Chris, Are you sure of the Dynon offer? I just looked at their site and it seems to me that they are offering a trade in of your used box at half of the current price. Your D-100 is now $2400, so they would give you $1200 towar= d the Skyview on a trade. They might up the ante for the battery as well?? If you need the grey code converter, you will need it for the new system as well. Dynon stuff puts out serial data to the transponder and the new ones can read it. (GTX327, GTX330, etc) If you have an older transponder you will need to keep the converter. If they are offering a better deal than that, I didn't see it. Bill B -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chris Barber Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:49 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Dynon EFIS D-100 Nope, no engine monitor. That is the 180 IIRC. This is the D-100 with the bright screen upgrade, internal battery and (off the top of my head, the grey code encoder. I will have to look to determine the rest. Yeah, I don't know if Dynon plans on coming down on the new price as there still seems to be a market. The previous generation of stuff is still a nice unit and still considerably cheaper than the SkyView. Also, since they are offering (what seems to be) 50% off the cost of a new SkyView for previous owners the market seems ripe to stay pretty close to the original price. The Dynon Support site/forum discusses how they want to bang out th= e details to positively impact current/loyal customers. They seem to be erring on the side of generosity. I know it has worked for me. I am a loyal Dynon customer. I saw my first unit at Osh in 2002. My emails back then were answered in a very cordial and positive manner, thus planting the seed for future purchases. I want to be able to give someone a good deal, however, if I am understanding Dynon's intent, I am likely good for half the cost of a new SkyView from them, hopefully with minimal hassle (no worries about personal checks etc). If I read it right that means at least $1950. On the forum they discussed a bit, again while qualifying they were still determining th= e details, how they wanted to be able to be more helpful if you had originall= y purchased additional modules/add on's like the battery and I would speculat= e things like the brighter screen, larger screen and/or grey code encoder. Donno really. I have battled if I need to upgrade.....NOPE, I don't. I do want to though Even at "just" $1950 off, I still think it is a pretty sweet deal, especially with the future possible additions Dynon states it i= s developing...like radio, transponder and of course the moving map and HITS. Of course perhaps I have misunderstood completely and they only intend to give half of the original equipments purchase price. If that is the case, the total original cost is even more important. However, I don't think tha= t is what they are doing....seems that would be a false economy just for the potential hassle. Hmmmm, I wonder if the upgrade is only for the original purchaser? Also, the bigger question, is how long will they honor it. If forever, purchasin= g the previous gen could be hedging inflation a bit by being able to use the old equipment a while, then trade it when ready. Of course, I would think this would not be a great business model. I am happy with what they may be trying to do now. It go my attention. Heck, right now my bird is setting on the city tie down ramp, getting raine= d on, waiting for the hangar roof repair to begin. It broke my heart to taxi my project...uh, plane (almost) from my hangar to the tie down area yesterday. It was kinda kewl getting on a borrowed hand held radio to request taxi clearance ("Ellington Ground, Velocity 17010....."). It looked so...abandoned sitting out there . No worries though, the Dynon is safe and sound (hopefully) sitting on my dining room table. All the best, Chris Barber Houston, GSOT -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html=