X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omta.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([4.59.182.110] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3891458 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:20:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=4.59.182.110; envelope-from=lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca Received: from torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com ([142.167.71.227]) by tormtz05.toronto.rmgopenwave.com (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20091019201952.NUZC11353.tormtz05.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com> for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:19:52 -0400 Received: from PCdeRita ([142.167.71.227]) by torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com with SMTP id <20091019201952.PJBG4033.torspm04.toronto.rmgopenwave.com@PCdeRita> for ; Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:19:52 -0400 Message-ID: <82859D6C434148299EFA9C0EA65BBE49@PCdeRita> From: "Rino" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:19:42 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA50E0.58C51D90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Opwv-CommTouchExtSvcRefID: str=0001.0A020205.4ADCC9E8.0220,ss=1,fgs=0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA50E0.58C51D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No thermostat for either. I have to find other ways to control the = temp. I want to control the air flow. =20 What is the best way, block the air flow at the front or the back of the = engine and rads? Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Maher=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs Rino, Do you have coolent and oil thermostats in your system? If you did you should not see such low temps. Jim --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino wrote: From: Rino Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:39 PM both oil and water temp were about 125 F on final to landing = which I feel is too cold for a landing overshoot. I normally take off = when the oil temp is 140 F or more. I would like to see above 160 temp = all the time for oil and water. Rino ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Whaley=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs Rino and Group: I=E2=80=99m curious about the comments with regards to the = cold engine =E2=80=A6 are you more concerned about oil or water temp? Lynn has posted several times that oil temperatures ABOVE 160F = rob power from the rotary, so that should mean oil temps below 160F are = a good thing. How low is too low? On my last flight the oil temp was about 135F in cruise = =E2=80=A6 with synthetic or multi-viscosity oil (15W50 for example), low = oil temps should not be problem. Jeff Rino posted: How long do the sparkplugs should last on the Renesis engine. My engine is starting to run rough and I suspect the plugs. I have to say that it is also running too cold, it goes down = to about 160 F (oil and water) when coming in for a landing which is = usually 3500 rpm. I have the NGK iridium plugs, lead RE7C and trail = RE9B. I am trying to warm up by blocking the radiators at the = moment. OAT between 30 and 40 F. I will have to build shutters to control the engine temp. Last month the engine was too hot, now it is too cold. I did = modify the air ducts and change the oil rad for the original RX7 rad. Rino Lacombe Renesis powered Glass Goose =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01CA50E0.58C51D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
No thermostat for either.  I have = to find=20 other ways to control the temp. I want to control the air flow. =20
What is the best way, block the air = flow at the=20 front or the back of the engine and rads?
 
Rino
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 James = Maher=20
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 = 3:16=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Cold = Oil ... was=20 Spark Plugs

Rino,
Do you have coolent and oil thermostats in your = system?
If you did you should not see such low temps.
 
Jim

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
Subjec= t:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Cold Oil ... was Spark Plugs
To: "Rotary = motors in=20 aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Date:=20 Monday, October 19, 2009, 12:39 PM

both oil and water temp were = about 125 F=20 on final to landing which I feel is too cold for a landing=20 overshoot.  I normally take off when the oil temp is 140 = F or=20 more.  I would like to see above 160 temp all the time = for oil=20 and water.
 
Rino
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Jeff Whaley =
To: Rotary motors = in=20 aircraft
Sent: Monday, October = 19, 2009=20 12:02 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] = Re: Cold=20 Oil ... was Spark Plugs

Rino=20 and Group:

I=E2=80=99m=20 curious about the comments with regards to the cold = engine  =E2=80=A6=20 are you more concerned about oil or water=20 temp?

Lynn=20 has posted several times that oil temperatures ABOVE 160F rob = power=20 from the rotary, so that should mean oil temps below 160F are = a good=20 thing.

How=20 low is too low?

On=20 my last flight the oil temp was about 135F in cruise =E2=80=A6 = with synthetic=20 or multi-viscosity oil (15W50 for example), low oil temps = should not=20 be problem.

Jeff

 

Rino=20 posted:

How long=20 do the sparkplugs should last on the Renesis = engine.

My engine=20 is starting to run rough and I suspect the plugs.

I have to=20 say that it is also running too cold, it goes down = to about 160 F=20 (oil and water) when coming in for a landing which is usually = 3500=20 rpm.  I have the NGK iridium plugs, lead RE7C and trail=20 RE9B.

 

I am=20 trying to warm up by blocking the radiators at the = moment. =20 OAT  between 30 and 40 F.

I will=20 have to build shutters to control the engine temp.

 

Last month=20 the engine was too hot, now it is too cold.  I did modify = the air=20 ducts and change the oil rad for the original RX7 = rad.

 

Rino=20 Lacombe

Renesis=20 powered Glass Goose

 

 

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