Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #48595
From: George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Your muffler
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 14:18:27 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Al,
Not tested yet, but have one almost complete for the single.
 
The cones are there to stop the sound waves having a direct line of sight out the rear end, the sound waves will be going all over the place within the exhaust and I tried to replicate that with the zig zaggy lines.
 
There is no restriction as the area around the back to back cones, is equal to the area of the 2" exhaust manifold area.
 
However I do take your point on swirl restriction, but I don't see a problem as it will swirl out the end, whereas sound waves travel in a straight line ( I think).  Bill did have me put in a reflector plate opposite the incoming exhaust, but I don't know if this will interrupt the swirl motion, I suspect it might. The reflector plate is on the LHS of the parts count - photo attached.
 
George ( down under)

George;

 

Nice design.  Has anyone run one of these yet.

My concern with the tangential muffler is something called ‘swirl flow choking’ – discovered in connection with a similar attempt with gas turbine exhaust.  High circumferential velocity tends to keep the flow from moving out the end, and consequent pressure buildup.  I don’t know whether it applies to the pulsed flow, but it might, and your conical restriction toward the outlet could make it worse.

 

To avoid that possibility in my tangential muffler I added internal vanes at a 45 degree angle opposite the ports, and extended the header pipes into muffler to a squared end. Disrupts the circumferential flow and helps direct the exhaust toward the exit.

 

Your depiction of the idealized sounds waves going axially; ah-h, well; maybe/maybe notJ.

 

Al G

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Lendich
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:14 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Your muffler

 

Kelly

There you go matey. All off the shelf SS cones and tube.

George ( down under)

----- Original Message -----

From: Kelly Troyer

Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 9:32 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Your muffler

 

  George,

   Do you have a photo or drawing available of your muffler design..........I seem to

remember seeing some design info in the past but do not know where to find it......

 

 

Thanks,

--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold


 

-------------- Original message from "George Lendich" <lendich@aanet.com.au>: --------------


> Ed,
> Cones are the GO.
>
> Any bare edge will take a battering from the heat and shock waves. Cones
> formed back to back eliminate any edges.
>
> There must be supporting structure for the cones, I've used 1/4" solid
> round bar welded into the exhaust skin.
> George (down under)

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