X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net ([68.230.241.40] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with ESMTP id 3863311 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:05:46 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.40; envelope-from=glasair2@me.com Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.00.01.00 201-2244-105-20090324) with ESMTP id <20090923140509.PDJD21192.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:05:09 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([70.177.24.126]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id kE5A1c0012jEC4N04E5AYG; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:05:10 -0400 X-VR-Score: -100.00 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=UX7OYE2mAAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Df0RtcrDvwnojWRpM9wA:9 a=pvyKHdTxEUdrw0kfX3gA:7 a=pMHiFR3Y3tfetp9jNAQhfzOY2xgA:4 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Hl1Gy0H5AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=LrenVHtmUDvoXk3StmkA:9 a=3jox_vR9aMhYmsZ_U3oA:7 a=P8cqNf_KhLfheplHae5iZAufgnYA:4 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 From: Steve Thomas Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-46-529603010 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Headsets Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:05:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-Id: <77511BC1-B379-4493-953F-1FAA0B610759@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) --Apple-Mail-46-529603010 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes But, these ear-plug type of headsets need to have some facility for equalizing air pressure in the ear. I believe with the Clarity headsets, you need to pull them out every-so-often to let the air pressure equalize (though don't quote me on that.) For most helicopter operations, this is a non-issue. Best Regards, Steve Thomas _______________________________________________________ On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich wrote: > > Mike, > Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing aid > ear plugs - bloody good idea. > George ( down under) > OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly Rotary so rarely > pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the subject > originator. > > George, the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until I flew with > the Zulu I wouldnt have believed it was worth it. > > One more possibility. Anyone familiar with these: > > http://www.anr-headsets.com:80/Html_folder/CEP.html > > I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He flew down in an > open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms and > these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better than > any ANR headset he'd ever tried. > > Mike Wills > RV-4 N144MW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: George Lendich > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:12 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... > > Mike, > As you might be aware, we pay significantly more here in Aus for > such equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go for > in the states. > George (down under) > > My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 years old and > still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth > between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly > better than my old 20K, but not enough to justify upgrading. > > I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a few weeks ago and flew > with it in the RV for about an hour. Significantly better than my > 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once I can scare up the cash. > > Another friend has the Bose which he just bought. Havent been able > to talk him out of it yet for a test flight but I hope to. > > Mike Wills > RV-4 N144MW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Thomas > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:40 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to report... > > Is there anyone out there with a Lightspeed Zulu that can report on > its effectiveness? > > Best Regards, > > Steve Thomas > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: > >> Lightspeed 33G. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Thomas >> wrote: >> Mark, >> >> Which ANR do you use? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Steve Thomas >> _______________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 21, 2009, at 5:26 AM, Mark Steitle wrote: >> >>> Good report Mike. I know what you mean about a quieter muffler. >>> My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low frequencies, but >>> a poor job on the higher frequencies. The rotary has both. So >>> take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen to the high >>> frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low rumble. If I >>> could only find an ANR that can do both I would be a happy camper. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills >>> wrote: >>> I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight time today. And for >>> the first time I landed and was completely satisfied with the >>> flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was the >>> first flight where I didnt feel like there was anything that had >>> to be fixed before the next flight. Even the landing was pretty >>> decent. >>> >>> I've got just over 9 hours of flight time and about 40 hours of >>> engine run time now. So far all of my flight time has been >>> directly over the airport because to venture away requires flying >>> over about 50 miles of mostly unlandable mountainous terrain. But >>> I'm starting to think seriously about stretching the legs a >>> little... >>> >>> Mike Wills >>> RV-4 N144MW >>> >> >> > > --Apple-Mail-46-529603010 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii But, these ear-plug type of headsets need to have = some facility for equalizing air pressure in the ear.  I believe = with the Clarity headsets, you need to pull them out every-so-often to = let the air pressure equalize (though don't quote me on that.)  For = most helicopter operations, this is a non-issue.

Best Regards,

Steve = Thomas




=

On Sep 22, 2009, at 11:23 PM, George Lendich = wrote:

 
 Mike,
Their similar to the Clarity Aloft headsets which use hearing = aid ear plugs - bloody good idea.
George ( down under)
OK Al, sorry about that. I read everything from Fly Rotary so = rarely pay attention to the subject line - even when I'm the subject = originator.
 
George,= the Bose is $1000 and the Zulu is $850. Until I flew with the Zulu I = wouldnt have believed it was worth it.
 
One more possibility. Anyone familiar with = these:
 
 
I had a DAR inspect my glider a few months ago. He flew down = in an open cockpit Pitts. He said he had a terrible time hearing comms = and these solved those problems. He reported that it worked better than = any ANR headset he'd ever tried.
 
Mike = Wills
RV-4 = N144MW
----- = Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 = 9:12 PM
 [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to = report...

Mike,
As you = might be aware, we pay significantly more here in Aus for such = equipment, can you tell me what the Bose -X and the Zulu go for in the = states.
George (down = under)
 
My headset is the original Lightspeed 20K - about 12 years = old and still fine. I've tried a Lightspeed 33K swapping back and forth = between it and the 20K in my buddy's Mooney. The 33K is slightly better = than my old 20K, but not enough to justify = upgrading.
 
I borrowed another friend's Lightspeed Zulu a = few weeks ago and flew with it in the RV for about an hour. = Significantly better than my 20K and I plan on making that upgrade once = I can scare up the cash.
 
Another= friend has the Bose which he just bought. Havent been able to talk him = out of it yet for a test flight but I hope to.
 
Mike Wills
RV-4 N144MW
----- = Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 = 8:40 AM
 [FlyRotary] Re: nothing to = report...

Is there anyone out there with a = Lightspeed Zulu that can report on its effectiveness?

Best = Regards,

Steve = Thomas
_______________________________________________________
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=

On Sep = 21, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Mark Steitle wrote:

Lightspeed 33G.


 
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Steve Thomas <glasair2@me.com> wrote:

Best = Regards,

Steve = Thomas
Good report Mike.  I know what you mean about a = quieter muffler.  My ANR headset does a good job of killing the low = frequencies, but a poor job on the higher frequencies.  The rotary = has both.  So take your pick, turn the ANR on and listen = to the high frequencies, or turn it off and listen to the low = rumble.  If I could only find an ANR that can do both I would be a = happy camper. 
 
Mark

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Mike Wills <rv-4mike@cox.net> wrote:
I added another 1.3 hours to my total flight = time today. And for the first time I landed and was completely satisfied = with the flight. I'd still like to quiet it down a little, but this was = the first flight where I didnt feel like there was anything that had to = be fixed before the next flight. Even the landing was pretty = decent.
 
I've = got just over 9 hours of flight time and about 40 hours of engine = run time now. So far all of my flight time has been directly over = the airport because to venture away requires flying over about 50 miles = of mostly unlandable mountainous terrain. But I'm starting to think = seriously about stretching the legs a little...
 
Mike = Wills
RV-4 = N144MW

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