Return-Path: Received: from relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.131.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2898959 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:11:09 -0500 Received: (qmail 27541 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2003 00:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO frontiernet.net) ([67.50.125.137]) (envelope-sender ) by relay04.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (FrontierMTA 2.3.6) with SMTP for ; 21 Dec 2003 00:10:38 -0000 Message-ID: <3FE4E56B.1C3117F3@frontiernet.net> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:12:27 -0600 From: Jim Sower X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Ed-Klepeis References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1F4303518DA57AC0EEB11913" --------------1F4303518DA57AC0EEB11913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have any dimensions - like exhaust runners, inner cooling (doughnut hole) pipe, exhaust pipe, etc? I don't recall too clearly from Tracy's and it's hard to see in the picture, but does the exhaust enter the muffler tangentially or pretty much straight in the side? An end (from exhaust pipe) view picture would be helpful if one is available. Looks promising .... Jim S. "sqpilot@earthlink" wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Russell Duffy > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:06 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Ed-Klepeis > > > Here's a pic of it. Ed Klepesis has welded it up-air > passes thru the center of it to help cool it. > > Marc Wiese Thanks for the pic Marc. It sure is a > convenient size, but I wonder how it performs > compared to a traditional 2 in 1 collector system. > Was any of this an off the shelf product, or is it > just something that Ed Klepesis created? Does he > sell them? Thanks,Rusty I can answer a few questions > concerning the VAM muffler. It was not designed by > Ed Klepeis, but he did make the first one and > submitted it for testing (done at Tracy Crook's > fly-in). Another rotary enthusiast, I 'm pretty > sure his name is Jerry Bass, has volunteered to test > the muffler on his aircraft. I understand that the > test results were favorable, and that it did ingest > air into the front of the "donut hole" and that air > exited out the rear, which theoretically should cool > the muffler and it's exhaust. The down side was that > it was a little loud, so they are looking at > modifications to make it more quiet. The test wasn't > completely fair to the muffler, as they were unable > to attach the tailpipe for testing (engine > mount/stand was in the way, I believe). > > I talked to Ed about purchasing one, and he > said that they were going to wait for test results, > in case there were mods or improvements required > befor making them for others. So, hopefully, we will > have some more test results soon, and I'm hoping > that I am way on top of the list to get the first or > second one? Attached is another picture, showing > the front inlet/cooling hole. Hope this is of some > help and or interest? Paul Conner > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: > http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > -- Jim Sower Crossville, TN; Chapter 5 Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T --------------1F4303518DA57AC0EEB11913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have any dimensions - like exhaust runners, inner cooling (doughnut hole) pipe, exhaust pipe, etc?  I don't recall too clearly from Tracy's and it's hard to see in the picture, but does the exhaust enter the muffler tangentially or pretty much straight in the side?  An end (from exhaust pipe) view picture would be helpful if one is available.
Looks promising .... Jim S.

"sqpilot@earthlink" wrote:

 
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Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 12:06 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Emailing: Ed-Klepeis
 

Here's a pic of it. Ed Klepesis has welded it up-air passes thru the center of it to help cool it.

Marc Wiese Thanks for the pic Marc.  It sure is a convenient size, but I wonder how it performs compared to a traditional 2 in 1 collector system.  Was any of this an off the shelf product, or is it just something that Ed Klepesis created?  Does he sell them? Thanks,Rusty I can answer a few questions concerning the VAM muffler. It was not designed by Ed Klepeis, but he did make the first one and submitted it for testing (done at Tracy Crook's fly-in).  Another rotary enthusiast, I 'm pretty sure his name is Jerry Bass, has volunteered to test the muffler on his aircraft.  I understand that the test results were favorable, and that it did ingest air into the front of the "donut hole" and that air exited out the rear, which theoretically should cool the muffler and it's exhaust. The down side was that it was a little loud, so they are looking at modifications to make it more quiet. The test wasn't completely fair to the muffler, as they were unable to attach the tailpipe for testing (engine mount/stand was in the way, I believe).

     I talked to Ed about purchasing one, and he said that they were going to wait for test results, in case there were mods or improvements required befor making them for others. So, hopefully, we will have some more test results soon, and I'm hoping that I am way on top of the list to get the first or second one?  Attached is another picture, showing the front inlet/cooling hole.  Hope this is of some help and or interest?  Paul Conner
 

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Jim Sower
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Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T
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