Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #48220
From: John <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mixture Condition
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:37:59 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Gentlemen, thankyou for your input.  I talked with Bob White tonight and he thought that the #1 primary injector may be sticking open and letting the fuel run and keeping the engine running.  Try doing that on a recip engine and see how long the muffler lasts.  Not sure how to check for this condition, as when it finally stops,  I turn on the LP pumps and start the engine so the pressure on fuel injection doesn't bled to zero, putting the fuel into the standing engine, then I let the fuel burn out of the carb until it quits.  In a few minutes it will start and run normal again and will stop when you turn off the injectors and as it gets hot again it repeats the cycle.         
Does anyone know of a reasonable substitute for Mazda injectors, their price is quit steep. 
 I can plug the fuel line to carb, but I don't believe that after 7 hours of running that gas would start siphoning up to the carb and with the fuel pump and injectors off it keeps running until the fuel pressure gets down to 17#'s before it quits.  The fuel pressure is holding a steady 41 pounds when the engine is running normally.  JohnD 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 4:57 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mixture Condition

With such an odd assortment of symptoms I suspect that you may have more than one problem.  This is the hardest situation to diagnose because fixing any one thing will not make it right, only change the symptoms.

If there IS a single problem, it is to be found by finding what makes the engine run with all injectors disabled.  This can't happen unless there is a major problem somewhere.  I would suggest fixing this first. 

Tracy Crook

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 1:08 PM, John <downing.j@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I have narrowed the mixture condition down to the fact that when it starts to miss up I can keep it running poorly by turning the mixture control down to minimum, but if I turn off the primary injectors switch the engine appears to run okay, the secondary injector switch doesn't seem to make any difference in the way it runs at 4000 rpm or idle.  The injector switches as well as the wiring harness I purchased from Bob and all wires are soldered and covered with heat shrink.  I checked the best I can with a light and mirror and everything looks okey under the panel.  It runs the same, rather in mode A or B.  On rereading the instructions I see that the coil disable can only be checked in mode B, so I haven't done that yet. 
I turned of the fuel pump and with the injector switch's off the engine continued to run until the fuel press was down to 17 pds. and quit.  I turned on the fuel pump (LP) to the Weber and it started immediatly.  This condition started at 7.2 on the hour meter.  I really now don't have any idea where to start looking for the problem.  JohnD 

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