Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:29:39 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.46] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2897897 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 22:00:00 -0500 Received: from user-2injrl5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.238.165] helo=Carol) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AXXLR-00073t-00 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:59:58 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <00eb01c3c6a5$563456c0$0000a398@Carol> From: "sqpilot@earthlink" X-Original-To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Change of plans (again) X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 20:59:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C3C673.0AB04A10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C3C673.0AB04A10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Russell Duffy=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Change of plans (again) Greetings, Well, after 9 weeks, with no word of when my turbo would arrive, I = decided to cancel the order. Yes, as amazing as it sounds, I've now = floundered back to the non-turbo plan. I won't bore you with all the = decision process, but the bottom line is that I'll get the plane back to = a far more reasonable weight and balance without the turbo. If I need = (relative term) more power, I'll just get one of Tracy's 2..85 drives, = and turn up the RPM's to 7500 or so. The engine is ported, and Bruce = said it would make good power to that RPM. I figure I can get all the = power I could want, with less risk to the engine. I won't have the high = altitude advantage that a turbo would give, but realistically, I don't = fly much over 10k ft anyway. =20 In other news, I received my one way valves from McMaster Carr today. = They're 12 oz each, which seems pretty heavy, but they're fairly = compact, have good specs, and were only $20 each. I'm sure they'll work = fine. Cheers, Rusty (should have paid attention to Ed's intake info ) =20 Hi, Rusty.....I can understand your reluctance to install the turbo. I = think if we can make these engines purr along smoothly at a reasonable = fuel burn, we just might be better off without the extra weight and = complexity of a turbo. I was told by George Graham, who has a 13b in = his side-by-side E-Racer canard, that he can take off and climb at 1/2 = throttle, and that at 150 mph he can open the throttle and push you back = in your seat. Not bad for a normally aspirated 13b with carburetors, no = less. He said he would do even better with EFI. For now, I am also = planning on going turbo-less. A lot less effort on the planning and = setup, wastegates, etc. But why am I telling YOU this? You've already = GOT that T-shirt. Thanks for keeping us informed with your trials and = tribulations. Really curious to hear how the EWP's work. Take care. = Paul, the radiator-challenged SQ2000 builder.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E8_01C3C673.0AB04A10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Russell=20 Duffy
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 = 8:37=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Change of = plans=20 (again)

Greetings,
 
Well, after 9 = weeks, with=20 no word of when my turbo would arrive, I decided to cancel the=20 order.  Yes, as amazing as it sounds, I've now = floundered back=20 to the non-turbo plan.  I won't bore you with all the = decision=20 process, but the bottom line is that I'll get the plane back to a far = more=20 reasonable weight and balance without the turbo.  If I need = (relative=20 term) more power, I'll just get one of Tracy's 2..85 drives, and turn = up the=20 RPM's to 7500 or so.  The engine is ported, and Bruce = said it=20 would make good power to that RPM.  I figure I can get all = the power=20 I could want, with less risk to the engine. I won't have the = high=20 altitude advantage that a turbo would give, but = realistically, I=20 don't fly much over 10k ft anyway.  
 
In other = news,=20 I received my one way valves from McMaster Carr = today. =20 They're 12 oz each, which seems pretty heavy, but they're fairly=20 compact, have good specs, and were only $20 each.  I'm = sure=20 they'll work fine.
 
Cheers,
Rusty (should = have paid=20 attention to Ed's intake info=20 <g>)      
 
Hi, = Rusty.....I can=20 understand your reluctance to install the turbo. I think if we = can make=20 these engines purr along smoothly at a reasonable fuel burn, = we just=20 might be better off without the extra weight and complexity of a = turbo. =20 I was told by George Graham, who has a 13b in his side-by-side E-Racer = canard,=20 that he can take off and climb at 1/2 throttle, and that at 150 = mph he=20 can open the throttle and push you back in your seat. Not bad for = a=20 normally aspirated 13b with carburetors, no less. He said = he would=20 do even better with EFI.  For now, I am also planning on going=20 turbo-less. A lot less effort on the planning and setup, = wastegates,=20 etc. But why am I telling YOU this?  You've already GOT that = T-shirt. Thanks for keeping us informed with your trials and=20 tribulations.  Really curious to hear how the EWP's work.  = Take=20 care.  Paul, the radiator-challenged SQ2000=20 builder. 
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