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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Smoking gun, ground wire crimp...
From: Mark Steitle <msteitle@gmail.com>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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That's why thermal strippers were invented.

Mark S.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> One other possibility as the cause of a broken copper wire, now I am
> talking about a solid wire which is not your case.  A copper wire is strong
> until there is a nick in it, then it breaks easily at the nick when flexed.
>  I wonder, if a number of strands of a stranded wire are nicked while one is
> removing the insulation could eventually result in breaking the wire,
> eventually.
>
> Rino
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Barber"
> <CBarber@TexasAttorney.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:51 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Smoking gun, ground wire crimp...
>
>
>
> Sorry to side track the T-shirt discussion.  I think we need something more
>> distinctive though to call more attention.  Something "cute" but potent to
>> deliver more of a total message.  Just a thought.
>>
>> Anyway, Tracy should have my EC2 by now.  Hopefully he is not overwhelmed
>> with work and I will be back with a running engine soon.
>>
>> Concerned with my broken ground wire, I examined where the wire broke,
>> right at the connection.  I crimped some test wire with the same wire,
>> terminators and crimps and what I have determined is that I MUST have
>> crimped the 16 gage wire with the wrong size crimp (20gage crimp) and the
>> smaller size crimp cut the the thicker wire to a point of failure.  The test
>> crimps I did with the smaller crimps on the larger wire produced the same
>> visual result as what failed.  I have done so many crimps of 20 gage wire, I
>> am guessen' that my motor memory just went to the red crimp. <embarrassed
>> sigh>.
>>
>> Just a small data point.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Chris
>> Houston
>>
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<div>That&#39;s why thermal strippers were invented.=A0 </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Mark S.<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Rino <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca">lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">One other possibility as the cau=
se of a broken copper wire, now I am talking about a solid wire which is no=
t your case. =A0A copper wire is strong until there is a nick in it, then i=
t breaks easily at the nick when flexed. =A0I wonder, if a number of strand=
s of a stranded wire are nicked while one is removing the insulation could =
eventually result in breaking the wire, eventually.<br>
<br>Rino<br><br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;Christopher Ba=
rber&quot; &lt;CBarber@TexasAttorney.net&gt;<br>To: &quot;Rotary motors in =
aircraft&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" target=3D=
"_blank">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 3:51 PM<br>Subject: [FlyRotary] Smoking gun,=
 ground wire crimp...=20
<div>
<div></div>
<div class=3D"h5"><br><br><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Sorry to side track the T-shirt =
discussion. =A0I think we need something more distinctive though to call mo=
re attention. =A0Something &quot;cute&quot; but potent to deliver more of a=
 total message. =A0Just a thought.<br>
<br>Anyway, Tracy should have my EC2 by now. =A0Hopefully he is not overwhe=
lmed with work and I will be back with a running engine soon.<br><br>Concer=
ned with my broken ground wire, I examined where the wire broke, right at t=
he connection. =A0I crimped some test wire with the same wire, terminators =
and crimps and what I have determined is that I MUST have crimped the 16 ga=
ge wire with the wrong size crimp (20gage crimp) and the smaller size crimp=
 cut the the thicker wire to a point of failure. =A0The test crimps I did w=
ith the smaller crimps on the larger wire produced the same visual result a=
s what failed. =A0I have done so many crimps of 20 gage wire, I am guessen&=
#39; that my motor memory just went to the red crimp. &lt;embarrassed sigh&=
gt;.<br>
<br>Just a small data point.<br><br>All the best,<br><br>Chris<br>Houston<b=
r><br>--<br>Homepage: =A0<a href=3D"http://www.flyrotary.com/" target=3D"_b=
lank">http://www.flyrotary.com/</a><br>Archive and UnSub: <a href=3D"http:/=
/mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html</a><br>
<br></blockquote><br><br>--<br>Homepage: =A0<a href=3D"http://www.flyrotary=
.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.flyrotary.com/</a><br>Archive and UnSub=
: =A0 <a href=3D"http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=
" target=3D"_blank">http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.h=
tml</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>

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