X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.27.212] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3793446 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:04:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.27.212; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by QMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PtiP1c0041ZMdJ4AEu3Z19; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:03:33 +0000 Received: from sz0081.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.26.137]) by OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Pu6u1c00A2xV6SL8cu6uBX; Mon, 03 Aug 2009 18:06:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:03:32 +0000 (UTC) From: hoursaway1@comcast.net To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <951152100.7838261249322612941.JavaMail.root@sz0081a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <690249132.7837731249322561895.JavaMail.root@sz0081a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] "SALUTE" to Tracy Crook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_387715_784072756.1249322612940" X-Originating-IP: [208.254.22.50] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - IE6 (Win)/5.0.16_GA_2927.RHEL5_64) ------=_Part_387715_784072756.1249322612940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same here Tracy, thanks & go flying.=C2=A0=C2=A0 From;=C2=A0 David R. Cook= =C2=A0=C2=A0 RV6A Rotary Lansing MI (paperwork & weight & bal .=C2=A0this w= eekend)=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Kelly Troyer " < keltro @ att .net>=20 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" < flyrotary @ lancaironline .net>=20 Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 1:21:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: [ FlyRotary ] "SALUTE" to Tracy Crook=20 Tracy,=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0 As much as all in the group appreciate your hard work and dedi= cation to all our special=20 needs and requests (I am a recipient of some of=C2=A0those special requests= ) it is time for you=20 to simplify your business (which you never intended to start) and=C2=A0atte= nd to=C2=A0 the reason you=20 retired early in the first place !!............."To built and fly your Rota= ry powered airplane" !!=20 =C2=A0 If you had not taken on the leadership of the=C2=A0"Rotary Engine Mo= vement"=C2=A0and developed=20 the necessary peripherals that are necessary to turn the 13B and now the Re= nesis into a=20 viable aircraft engine very few Rotary Engines would be flying to this day.= ...........Now it=20 seems that every few days or weeks someone of our little group is about to = take to the=20 air and most=C2=A0will be flying your=C2=A0flight proven products (You fly = what you sell)...........=20 =C2=A0 From one of your early customers (Who has not taken flight because o= f=C2=A03 years=C2=A0being=20 caretaker to aging parents) I would like to express my appreciation for all= your hard=20 work and dedication to us with just as much enthusiasm for the Rotary=C2=A0= Engine as you=20 but lack your background and skills to provide the necessary parts !!......= ........=20 All The Best,=C2=A0=20 --=20 Kelly Troyer=20 " Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine=20 " RWS "_RD1C/EC2/EM2=20 "Mistral" _Backplate /Oil Manifold=20 -------------- Original message from Tracy Crook < tracy @ rotaryaviation .= com>: --------------=20 Thanks Ben, kind of missed going to Oshkosh this year but I feel good about= getting the -8 ready for it's inspection next week.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Only about= 5 years after my goal but Oshkosh 2010 should be a no brainer : )=20 Yep, I spend at least as much time trying to talk builders out of auto conv= ersions as I do 'into' it.=C2=A0 Definitely not the fastest way to get into= the air.=20 Realizing how little time I've had to work on and fly my own plane lately b= rought me to a decision this week.=C2=A0 In the past, I've taken on every r= equest to do custom engine controllers and monitors for virtually any engin= e that builders asked for. =C2=A0 These end up as one of a kind systems tha= t take hundreds of hours to develop and support and I realized that is no l= onger possible for me to keep up with.=C2=A0 Time to simplify.=20 Glad there were some of you guys at Oshkosh to fly the rotary flag this yea= r though.=20 Tracy=20 On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ben Schneider < plumberben @yahoo.com > wro= te:=20 All,=20 =C2=A0 Got back from Oshkosh, talked rotary with several rotary people, and= a few newbies. =C2=A0One thing I have tried to do when people ask about th= e rotary installation is not to give people a pair of rose colored glasses.= AL tell them that if they just want to bolt on and go, then the rotary is = not there yet, put on a Lycoming . But if they enjoy tinkering, some proble= m solving, and building things by hand, then it may be a good option for th= em. Don't want to discourage people from the rotary movement, but also don'= t want to paint a false picture only to have them start, then change, and b= admouth the rotaries, we get enough of that the way it is.=20 =C2=A0Rotary airplanes on the field were, Chuck Dunlop , Dave Atkins, and o= ne other fellow, I met on Tuesday that was in homebuilt camping area that I= cannot for the life of me remember his name. (sorry, I know you are on the= list, please chime in if you read this)=20 =C2=A0As far as the 11:00 am rotary gatherings, I think I did not do a very= good job of organizing that. Perhaps next year I will try to do better. I = was there Tuesday and we had three guys, Wednesday two, and Thursday I got = tied up somewhere else, and time got away from me. I think there were more = that showed up, but we had no way of identifying each other. I am not sure = what the best way to make it more obvious is, perhaps next year we meet at = one particular airplane at a given time, instead of just in front of the ho= mebuilt headquarters. There were about 75 to 100 people hanging around ther= e most anytime I walked buy there. Maybe we can get Tracy to fly his RV8 ne= xt year and that can be the meeting place. Might make for some easier to te= ll who is there for the rotary, and who is just sitting in the shade. (actu= ally, perhaps all those 75 to 100 people were there for the rotary meet up!= ;)=20 =C2=A0 David Cook - I was hoping to meet you this year, I met a guy last ye= ar that is in your EAA chapter (if I remember right) and he told me about y= our project. Sorry we didn't cross paths.=20 =C2=A0 Tracy - you were missed there this year. Just isn't the same without= you there. Perhaps next year with the 8. :)=20 Ben=20 ------=_Part_387715_784072756.1249322612940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Same here= Tracy, thanks & go flying.   From;  David R. Cook =   RV6A Rotary Lansing MI (paperwork & weight & bal. this = weekend)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Troyer" <keltro= @att.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline= .net>
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 1:21:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Ea= stern
Subject: [FlyRotary] "SALUTE" to Tracy Crook

Tracy,
   As much as all in the group appreciate your hard work and= dedication to all our special
needs and requests (I am a recipient of some of those special req= uests) it is time for you
to simplify your business (which you never intended to start) and = ;attend to  the reason you
retired early in the first place !!............."To built and fly your= Rotary powered airplane" !!
 
  If you had not taken on the leadership of the "Rotary Engi= ne Movement" and developed
the necessary peripherals that are necessary to turn the 13B and now t= he Renesis into a
viable aircraft engine very few Rotary Engines would be flying to this= day............Now it
seems that every few days or weeks someone of our little group is abou= t to take to the
air and most will be flying your flight proven products (You= fly what you sell)...........
 
  From one of your early customers (Who has not taken flight beca= use of 3 years being
caretaker to aging parents) I would like to express my appreciation fo= r all your hard
work and dedication to us with just as much enthusiasm for the Rotary&= nbsp;Engine as you
but lack your background and skills to provide the necessary parts !!.= .............
 
All The Best, 
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d
-------------- Original message from Tracy Crook <tracy@r= otaryaviation.com>: --------------

Thanks Ben, kind of missed go= ing to Oshkosh this year but I feel good about getting the -8 ready for it'= s inspection next week.   Only about 5 years after my goal but Os= hkosh 2010 should be a no brainer : )

Yep, I spend at least as much = time trying to talk builders out of auto conversions as I do 'into' it.&nbs= p; Definitely not the fastest way to get into the air.

Realizing how= little time I've had to work on and fly my own plane lately brought me to = a decision this week.  In the past, I've taken on every request to do = custom engine controllers and monitors for virtually any engine that builde= rs asked for.   These end up as one of a kind systems that take hundre= ds of hours to develop and support and I realized that is no longer possibl= e for me to keep up with.  Time to simplify.

Glad there were so= me of you guys at Oshkosh to fly the rotary flag this year though.

T= racy

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ben Schneider <plu= mberben@yahoo.com> wrote:

All,

 = Got back from Oshkosh, talked rotary with several rotary people, and a few= newbies.  One thing I have tried to do when people ask about the rota= ry installation is not to give people a pair of rose colored glasses. AL te= ll them that if they just want to bolt on and go, then the rotary is not th= ere yet, put on a Lycoming. But if they enjoy tinkering, some problem solvi= ng, and building things by hand, then it may be a good option for them. Don= 't want to discourage people from the rotary movement, but also don't want = to paint a false picture only to have them start, then change, and badmouth= the rotaries, we get enough of that the way it is.

 Rotary air= planes on the field were, Chuck Dunlop, Dave Atkins, and one other fellow, = I met on Tuesday that was in homebuilt camping area that I cannot for the l= ife of me remember his name. (sorry, I know you are on the list, please chi= me in if you read this)

 As far as the 11:00 am rotary gatherin= gs, I think I did not do a very good job of organizing that. Perhaps next y= ear I will try to do better. I was there Tuesday and we had three guys, Wed= nesday two, and Thursday I got tied up somewhere else, and time got away fr= om me. I think there were more that showed up, but we had no way of identif= ying each other. I am not sure what the best way to make it more obvious is= , perhaps next year we meet at one particular airplane at a given time, ins= tead of just in front of the homebuilt headquarters. There were about 75 to= 100 people hanging around there most anytime I walked buy there. Maybe we = can get Tracy to fly his RV8 next year and that can be the meeting place. M= ight make for some easier to tell who is there for the rotary, and who is j= ust sitting in the shade. (actually, perhaps all those 75 to 100 people wer= e there for the rotary meet up! ;)

  David Cook - I was hoping = to meet you this year, I met a guy last year that is in your EAA chapter (i= f I remember right) and he told me about your project. Sorry we didn't cros= s paths.
  Tracy - you were missed there this year. Just isn't the = same without you there. Perhaps next year with the 8. :)

Ben


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