X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost02.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.102] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3792334 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:22:02 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.102; envelope-from=keltro@att.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; q=dns/txt; d=att.net; s=dkim01; i=keltro@att.net; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1249233721; h=Content-Type: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From; bh=EL2fUH XcysrqTElozzTA7mTXAxF89um2aQAT9XX9qRM=; b=a+t6rWwqQnfCWPBI4qsFULl++ M7DM5/O2Hrh1BdX3ZN/nCFiAX1/22ZUqHTR2f5N1CfVSJ3Ll7NYg9nq0X/E5w== Received: from fwebmail31.isp.att.net ([204.127.221.131]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc02) with SMTP id <20090802172126H0200129nqe>; Sun, 2 Aug 2009 17:21:26 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [204.127.221.131] Received: from [208.114.45.0] by fwebmail31.isp.att.net; Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:21:26 +0000 From: "Kelly Troyer" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: "SALUTE" to Tracy Crook Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:21:26 +0000 Message-Id: <080220091721.29814.4A75CB15000B87850000747622243322829B0A02D29B9B0EBF019D9B040A05@att.net> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Mar 2 2009) X-Authenticated-Sender: a2VsdHJvQGF0dC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29814_1249233686_0" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29814_1249233686_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tracy, As much as all in the group appreciate your hard work and dedication to all our special needs and requests (I am a recipient of some of those special requests) it is time for you to simplify your business (which you never intended to start) and attend to the reason you retired early in the first place !!............."To built and fly your Rotary powered airplane" !! If you had not taken on the leadership of the "Rotary Engine Movement" and developed the necessary peripherals that are necessary to turn the 13B and now the Renesis into a viable aircraft engine very few Rotary Engines would be flying to this day............Now it seems that every few days or weeks someone of our little group is about to take to the air and most will be flying your flight proven products (You fly what you sell)........... From one of your early customers (Who has not taken flight because of 3 years being caretaker to aging parents) I would like to express my appreciation for all your hard work and dedication to us with just as much enthusiasm for the Rotary Engine as you but lack your background and skills to provide the necessary parts !!.............. All The Best, -- Kelly Troyer "Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine "RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2 "Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold -------------- Original message from Tracy Crook : -------------- Thanks Ben, kind of missed going to Oshkosh this year but I feel good about getting the -8 ready for it's inspection next week. Only about 5 years after my goal but Oshkosh 2010 should be a no brainer : ) Yep, I spend at least as much time trying to talk builders out of auto conversions as I do 'into' it. Definitely not the fastest way to get into the air. Realizing how little time I've had to work on and fly my own plane lately brought me to a decision this week. In the past, I've taken on every request to do custom engine controllers and monitors for virtually any engine that builders asked for. These end up as one of a kind systems that take hundreds of hours to develop and support and I realized that is no longer possible for me to keep up with. Time to simplify. Glad there were some of you guys at Oshkosh to fly the rotary flag this year though. Tracy On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ben Schneider wrote: All, Got back from Oshkosh, talked rotary with several rotary people, and a few newbies. One thing I have tried to do when people ask about the rotary installation is not to give people a pair of rose colored glasses. AL tell them that if they just want to bolt on and go, then the rotary is not there yet, put on a Lycoming. But if they enjoy tinkering, some problem solving, and building things by hand, then it may be a good option for them. Don't want to discourage people from the rotary movement, but also don't want to paint a false picture only to have them start, then change, and badmouth the rotaries, we get enough of that the way it is. Rotary airplanes on the field were, Chuck Dunlop, Dave Atkins, and one other fellow, I met on Tuesday that was in homebuilt camping area that I cannot for the life of me remember his name. (sorry, I know you are on the list, please chime in if you read this) As far as the 11:00 am rotary gatherings, I think I did not do a very good job of organizing that. Perhaps next year I will try to do better. I was there Tuesday and we had three guys, Wednesday two, and Thursday I got tied up somewhere else, and time got away from me. I think there were more that showed up, but we had no way of identifying each other. I am not sure what the best way to make it more obvious is, perhaps next year we meet at one particular airplane at a given time, instead of just in front of the homebuilt headquarters. There were about 75 to 100 people hanging around there most anytime I walked buy there. Maybe we can get Tracy to fly his RV8 next year and that can be the meeting place. Might make for some easier to tell who is there for the rotary, and who is just sitting in the shade. (actually, perhaps all those 75 to 100 people were there for the rotary meet up! ;) David Cook - I was hoping to meet you this year, I met a guy last year that is in your EAA chapter (if I remember right) and he told me about your project. Sorry we didn't cross paths. Tracy - you were missed there this year. Just isn't the same without you there. Perhaps next year with the 8. :) Ben --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29814_1249233686_0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29814_1249233686_1" --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29814_1249233686_1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tracy,
   As much as all in the group appreciate your hard work and= dedication to all our special
needs and requests (I am a recipient of some of those special req= uests) it is time for you
to simplify your business (which you never intended to start) and = ;attend to  the reason you
retired early in the first place !!............."To built and fly your= Rotary powered airplane" !!
 
  If you had not taken on the leadership of the "Rotary Engi= ne Movement" and developed
the necessary peripherals that are necessary to turn the 13B and now t= he Renesis into a
viable aircraft engine very few Rotary Engines would be flying to this= day............Now it
seems that every few days or weeks someone of our little group is abou= t to take to the
air and most will be flying your flight proven products (You= fly what you sell)...........
 
  From one of your early customers (Who has not taken flight beca= use of 3 years being
caretaker to aging parents) I would like to express my appreciation fo= r all your hard
work and dedication to us with just as much enthusiasm for the Rotary&= nbsp;Engine as you
but lack your background and skills to provide the necessary parts !!.= .............
 
All The Best, 
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_1= 3B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifol= d
-------------- Original message from Tracy Crook <tracy@r= otaryaviation.com>: --------------

Thanks Ben, kind of missed go= ing to Oshkosh this year but I feel good about getting the -8 ready for it'= s inspection next week.   Only about 5 years after my goal but Os= hkosh 2010 should be a no brainer : )

Yep, I spend at least as much = time trying to talk builders out of auto conversions as I do 'into' it.&nbs= p; Definitely not the fastest way to get into the air.

Realizing how= little time I've had to work on and fly my own plane lately brought me to = a decision this week.  In the past, I've taken on every request to do = custom engine controllers and monitors for virtually any engine that builde= rs asked for.   These end up as one of a kind systems that take hundre= ds of hours to develop and support and I realized that is no longer possibl= e for me to keep up with.  Time to simplify.

Glad there were so= me of you guys at Oshkosh to fly the rotary flag this year though.

T= racy

On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ben Schneider <plumberben@yahoo.co= m> wrote:

All,

 = Got back from Oshkosh, talked rotary with several rotary people, and a few= newbies.  One thing I have tried to do when people ask about the rota= ry installation is not to give people a pair of rose colored glasses. AL te= ll them that if they just want to bolt on and go, then the rotary is not th= ere yet, put on a Lycoming. But if they enjoy tinkering, some problem solvi= ng, and building things by hand, then it may be a good option for them. Don= 't want to discourage people from the rotary movement, but also don't want = to paint a false picture only to have them start, then change, and badmouth= the rotaries, we get enough of that the way it is.

 Rotary air= planes on the field were, Chuck Dunlop, Dave Atkins, and one other fellow, = I met on Tuesday that was in homebuilt camping area that I cannot for the l= ife of me remember his name. (sorry, I know you are on the list, please chi= me in if you read this)

 As far as the 11:00 am rotary gatherin= gs, I think I did not do a very good job of organizing that. Perhaps next y= ear I will try to do better. I was there Tuesday and we had three guys, Wed= nesday two, and Thursday I got tied up somewhere else, and time got away fr= om me. I think there were more that showed up, but we had no way of identif= ying each other. I am not sure what the best way to make it more obvious is= , perhaps next year we meet at one particular airplane at a given time, ins= tead of just in front of the homebuilt headquarters. There were about 75 to= 100 people hanging around there most anytime I walked buy there. Maybe we = can get Tracy to fly his RV8 next year and that can be the meeting place. M= ight make for some easier to tell who is there for the rotary, and who is j= ust sitting in the shade. (actually, perhaps all those 75 to 100 people wer= e there for the rotary meet up! ;)

  David Cook - I was hoping = to meet you this year, I met a guy last year that is in your EAA chapter (i= f I remember right) and he told me about your project. Sorry we didn't cros= s paths.
  Tracy - you were missed there this year. Just isn't the = same without you there. Perhaps next year with the 8. :)

Ben


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