Steve, I'd do the test for a min of 6mo. I've hear of others doing similar tests
and only seeing effects after several months.
Fwiw
Jarrett [I've since never been able to find the email/site which talked about the test.. wish I'd kept it!]
> I am in the process of testing the effect of ethanol-laced > gasoline on > my fiberglass tanks. My airplane is made from vinyl-ester resin, > not > the epoxy resins used by many other aircraft. Vinyl-ester is > touted > to be immune to the effects that ethanol has on other products. > Someone on the Glasair list had some problems with ethanol, so I > decided to run some tests. What follows is the analysis I posted > on > the Glasair list. It has implications for all of us rotary guys > as > well. When I speak of Jose Cuervo, I started a test of very high > concentrations of ethanol using Jose Cuervo as my medium. It is > 40% > alcohol. > > ----- > > I thought that I would update everyone on the Ethanol
> "research" that I have been doing. I now have three test > jars set up. One jar has the infamous Jose Cuervo in it. > The second jar has pure 91 octane gasoline with 5.7% > ehtanol and the third jar has 91 octane gasohol (same as > above) but laced with water. > > The Jose Cuervo jar has two samples in it; one is a sample > of precure that is something I made up several years ago, > and the other one is from the original kit. Both samples > have been in the jar for a week. So far, there is no > noticeable effect on either sample. > > The gasoline-only jar has three samples in it. One sample > is from the original factory lay-up. One is a brand new > layup that I did a little over a week ago that was allowed > to cure for 48 hours. The third sample is from the same > layup just completed, but was cured in an oven at 200
> degrees for 3 hours. Again, no noticeable effect on any of > the three samples after one week. This test will go on for > a while longer just out of my own curiosity. > > The third jar has the water in it. it also has just one > sample in it, one of the original factory layups. The water > at the bottom of the jar has turned a light brown color. It > has clearly leached the alcohol and some other products > out of the gas as the water level has grown. There is no > effect on the sample layup, either in the gas or the water > (I have it standing up in the jar so that part of the sample > is in the water and part in the gas.) > > But the final coup de grace comes from a conversation I > had with a BP/Arco technical products engineer. He told > me that first, California currently has a ethanol ratio of
> 5.7% but will soon be changing to 10%. He also said that > the fiberglass tank problem is nearly irrelevant because, > as ethanol laced gasoline gets colder, the ethanol will > come out of solution and unless your engine is capable of > burning pure ethanol, you should avoid using any > ethanol-laced gasoline at altitude. If you were to ever > find yourself at very cold temperatures (he didn't specify > how cold), the likelihood of ethanol coming out of > solution is very high. > > Now, it also possible (but not probable) that one could > obtain an exemption from the Air Resources Board to get > ethanol-free gas for experimental purposes, the > likelihood of finding someone to sell that small volume is > nil. > > The engineer also told me that it is possible to leach the > ethanol out of the fuel. I do not recommend this
> procedure (legal disclaimer). one can leach the ethanol by > adding water to a tank of fuel, agitating it, then cooling it > down as far as practicable to ensure that all of the water > falls out. Then, remove the water layer. If you don't cool > it down, micro-bubbles will remain in the gasoline that > will fall out over time. Any takers? > > So, at least for now, it seems that the effect of ethanol on > fiberglass is somewhat moot, despite my inability to see > any effect on the samples I have in process. > > Best Regards, > > Steve Thomas > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > > >
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