All,

I’m tuning out until I complete the move to NC.  I’ll check back in then.

 

Chris

 

 

Ed very properly mentions that forward speed is a large component of the prop tip speed. On an RV-8 that could easily be 200 mph! Be sure to add all the factors Into the spread sheet.
Bill Jepson

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From: Berniehb7448@wmconnect.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:46:23 EDT
To: Rotary motors in aircraft<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Spreadsheet for Prop Tip Speed PropTipSpeedCal.xls

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Subj:[FlyRotary] Spreadsheet for Prop Tip Speed PropTipSpeedCal.xls
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Hi folks,

Attached is a spreadsheet for calculation of propeller tip speed both static
and moving through the air.  Thanks to Bernie and Bill for the equations - I
have not attempt to verify the equations, but they appear to be accurate and
further more if you put zero airspeed in the moving prop equation, you get
the same calculated values as the static prop - so appears they are in
agreement and accurate.

You may change any value shown in color Blue - the rest of the spreadsheet
is protected so folks don't accidentally erase an equation in a cell by
putting a number in it.  But, you can view the equations in each cell, so if
someone wants to duplicate it unprotected - have at it.

Enjoy

Ed



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That spreadsheet is really cool!  I did not know about what affects speed of sound (humidity, etc.), I thought it would be air density (altitude). Because of such arbitrary influences that can't be accounted for in a formula, I would probably "red-line" the RPM at no more than 100 MPH below speed of sound. Those influences could, at times, change the formula speed of sound while you are flying, so that your prop RPM could enter the speed of sound range just by chance of changing air properties.

In my sample formula, you can see what the difference in RPM can do. Add 500 RPM, and it puts your prop tips a hair away from speed of sound.

Do you think a 100 MPH below speed of sound limit is reasonably safe?

Thanks, Bernie