X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.14) with ESMTP id 3748518 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:19:57 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=75.180.132.122; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from computername ([75.191.186.236]) by cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090707221918402.QJGV19903@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:19:18 +0000 From: "Ed Anderson" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Emailing: rotor 2 leading, rotor 2 leading b Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:19:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Acn/RrvHbCvDkgi+TeKy4AXsNxD/4gACFtcg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20090707221918402.QJGV19903@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> Steve, those plugs look quite a bit more worn and eroded than what I see at the end of 25-30 hours. In mine the center electrode has just barely lost the sharp corners around the end of the center electrode. There is considerable coating of the center electrode with (what I believe) are lead crystals - the white ceramic is almost starting to look black. But, yours look to have taken more stress - particularly the second photo where the center electrode looks almost rounded at the point. But, while always difficult to tell from just a photo, your plugs look somewhat similar (but not nearly as bad) when I unintentionally set my static timing about 15 deg beyond the 30 deg Tracy recommended for a total of around 45 deg before TDC. When I flew I notice that if I opened the throttle for full power the exhaust changed to a staccato popping sound, pulling back on the throttle stopped the popping characteristic of the exhaust. When I got back on the ground I pulled the plugs. All four plugs had the ceramic cone either shattered or cracked. The two leading plugs had half of the cone missing - apparent either disintegrated or fail into the engine and go blown out the exhaust without doing damage - and were the most seriously damaged. The center electrode had eroded at least 1/8" almost down to the cone. The grounding electrodes were severely eroded as well. I mean there was absolutely no question that these plugs had been hammered hard. I believe due to the overly advanced ignition that I was encountering detonation or severe preignition. Not saying your ignition is not set properly, but then I thought mine was too {:>). Many of us do run our engines on the severely lean side of the curve which according to the spark plug manufactures can apparently contribute to SAG and perhaps even the conditions of your spark plugs. ED Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of sboese Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:05 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Emailing: rotor 2 leading, rotor 2 leading b Ed, Here are two pictures of a plug removed after 15 hours of use, half with 100LL. All the plugs look very similar. Does this plug look typical to you and satisfy your definition of "no discernable wear"? I'm just trying to satisfy myself that I'm not seeing something anomolous. Steve Boese __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com