Return-Path: Received: from mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.219] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2783758 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:21:46 -0500 Received: from dell (c68.187.32.48.ts46v-21.grnbry.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [68.187.32.48]) by mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.10/8.12.8) with SMTP id hB4KEPna005916 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:14:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from n268bl@charter.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FCF9515.000007.71213@dell.WorkGroup> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 14:12:05 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_540EWCW0000000000000" X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1850931) From: "Bill Eslick" References: X-FID: BA285063-5BCE-11D4-AF8D-0050DAC67E11 X-FVER: X-FIT: X-FCOL: X-FCAT: X-FDIS: X-BG: X-BGT: repeat X-BGC: #eff3f7 X-BGPX: left X-BGPY: 0px X-ASN: ANIM3D00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-ASNF: 0 X-ASH: ANIM3D00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-ASHF: 1 X-AN: 6486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ANF: 0 X-AP: 6486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-APF: 1 X-AD: C3C52140-4147-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC68030 X-ADF: 0 X-AUTO: X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Heaters/defrosters --------------Boundary-00=_540EWCW0000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_540ERN00000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_540ERN00000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D Mark,=0D =0D This is in an RV, but I just put a heater core into a box with flaper val= ves to direct air and a "heater valve" in the water line just like a car. Th= e core has two copper lines that project forward through the firewall, so there are no hoses in the cockpit. The hoses and water valve are forward= of the firewall.=0D =0D As you can see, air is taken from the NACA fresh air vent. It can be directed through the core to the floor or up to a defroster vent, or any combination thereof. The water valve takes care of temperature control. = It works exactly like an old car.=0D =0D I can discern almost no help cooling the engine by opening this thing up.= =20 At any rate, when cooling help is needed here in Texas, putting this on f= ull blast would probably melt your shoes.=0D =0D Bill Eslick=0D 235 hours =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Date: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 06:05:35 PM=0D To: Rotary motors in aircraft=0D Subject: [FlyRotary] Heaters/defrosters=0D =0D Is there a "best practice" for cabin heat/defrost systems for rotary =0D a/c. Those of you that are flying, how did you approach this item. It =0D seems to me that with all that heat going out the tailpipe, it is a =0D no-brainer... except for the carbon-monoxide thing. Then again, I don't =0D want to be scalded with hot ethylene-glycol either. The exhaust muff seem= s =0D like the lighter and simpler solution. On the other hand, with proper =0D ducting, the heater core could add extra cooling during climb-out.=0D =0D Comments welcome,=0D Mark S. (hot oil exchanger is out of the question)=0D =0D =0D >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=0D >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html=0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_540ERN00000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Mark,
 
This is in an RV, but I just put a heater core into a box with flape= r valves to direct air and a "heater valve" in the water line just like a= car.  The core has two copper lines that project forward through th= e firewall, so there are no hoses in the cockpit.  The hoses and wat= er valve are forward of the firewall.
 
As you can see, air is taken from the NACA fresh air vent.  It = can be directed through the core to the floor or up to a defroster vent, = or any combination thereof.  The water valve takes care of temperatu= re control.  It works exactly like an old car.
 
I can discern almost no help cooling the engine by opening this thin= g up.  At any rate, when cooling help is needed here in Texas, putti= ng this on full blast would probably melt your shoes.
 
Bill Eslick
235 hours
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, Dec= ember 02, 2003 06:05:35 PM
Subject: [FlyRotar= y] Heaters/defrosters
 
Is there a "best practice" for cabin heat/defrost system= s for rotary
a/c. Those of you that are flying, how did you approach = this item. It
seems to me that with all that heat going out the tailp= ipe, it is a
no-brainer... except for the carbon-monoxide thing. Then= again, I don't
want to be scalded with hot ethylene-glycol either. T= he exhaust muff seems
like the lighter and simpler solution. On the o= ther hand, with proper
ducting, the heater core could add extra cooli= ng during climb-out.

Comments welcome,
Mark S. (hot oil exchang= er is out of the question)


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