Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:29:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from wb1-a.mail.utexas.edu ([128.83.126.134] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 2783265 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:09:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 86223 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2003 15:09:40 -0000 Received: from dhcp-191-101.per.utexas.edu (HELO benefits3.mail.utexas.edu) (146.6.191.101) by wb1.mail.utexas.edu with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 4 Dec 2003 15:09:40 -0000 X-Original-Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20031204084254.021f5d48@localhost> X-Sender: msteitle@mail.utexas.edu@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 X-Original-Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:09:35 -0600 X-Original-To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" From: Mark Steitle Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Expansion Chambers In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_180047968==_" --=====================_180047968==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:35 PM 12/3/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Could someone please correct my understanding where wrong, discuss the pros >and cons of these systems for our purposes, and point me in the right >direction for obtaining / constructing the parts I need? >Regards, >John Slade John, With the radiator located under my engine, I had a concern with air being trapped in the radiator, and/or engine block. My approach surely isn't the only solution, but it is simple and appears to be working (2.5hrs run time on system). Basically, I copied the system used in my 2000 Chevrolet pickup with the 5.3L V-8, with aluminum heads. It has a small 5/16" line coming from the top corner of the return side of the radiator (fat hose is at the bottom of this side tank). This small line goes directly to the accumulator tank, near the top. The outlet from the bottom of the accumulator tank T's into the water pump inlet. (My 20B pump had a fitting already installed on the inlet.) The only radiator cap on the system is on the accumulator/burp tank, although I do have a small burp plug on top of the thermostat housing, but no thermostat. There is a 1/2 gallon plastic overflow catch bottle connected to the accumulator tank. I purchased the accumulator/burp tank from Pegasus Racing. 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