Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #45375
From: Bob White <bob@bob-white.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] New in the group.
Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:58:51 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Gonzalo,

I'm going to take the liberty of using a quote from Dave Leonard.  He
published it on this list a few days ago.

"I now have 370 hours and almost never remove the cowl anymore.  I fly
it hard and put it away wet.  I have not had an engine or engine
systems issue in nearly 200 hrs.

Compare that the the first 100 hrs where I was putting in almost 10 hrs
of maintenance for each our of flying and she has really come a long
way.

Way worth it!


David Leonard"

I would also add that a lot of the problems are being solved, and in
the last few months, there have been several reports of first flights
with NO heating problems!  You can expect to spend extra time getting
everything right because there isn't a bolt on solution as there is
with the "standard" engine setup.  Every builder will have something
unique in his installation.  The best way to minimize the extra effort
is to use the experiences of the builders that have gone before, and
it's starting to show results.

The rotary does need to turn at 6000 - 7500 rpm for best power so a
gear reduction is needed.  Tracy Crook sells a gear reduction unit that
does an excellent job.  It's been used in a lot of rotary installations
and has a proven track record.  He also has engine controllers,
monitors, and other items.

I cut my rotary flying short due to my bad judgement that resulted in
serious damage to my aircraft in a landing accident.  At that point my
major issues were marginal cooling and a prop that wasn't matched to my
needs very well.  I feel very confident that with a few modifications
and a new prop those issues would have been resolved.

Just my opinion FWIW ($0.02 or less)

Bob W.





On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:51:25 -0300
Gonzalo A. Giménez Celis <gonza@gimenez.cl> wrote:

> Hi Group, my name is Gonzalo, I’m from Chile, building a Cozy MK IV and new
> in this group.
>
>  
>
> As you can imagine. Although I have a couple of years left of building, I’m
> moving ahead looking for engine options. Of all the alternatives I’ve
> founded in the web, always I come back to the same two options: the XP-360
> and the Rotary.
>
>  
>
> The XP-360 represent, I think, the “traditional approach”, while the Rotary
> is like the new era. I’ve been reading a lot, and I think I can resume all
> my reading in one statement: the users of traditional general aviation
> engines (Lyc type) says that if I go with the rotary, I’ll expend more time
> trying to make it working than actually flying, so, after a while, I’ll
> become so tired that I’ll move to the Lyc type anyway, because the Rotary is
> less reliable.
>
>  
>
> I’ve meet Bulent Aliev, a very nice guy who showed me his aircraft (very,
> very nice) and he had a Rotary, and after 20 hour he moved to a XP-360. He
> told me that there are too much electronics involved with the Wankel. He
> told me that If I want to fly, use the Lyc.
>
>  
>
> On the other side, Bulent told me that the factory of the XP-360 is broke,
> so, the warranty is no longer valid. (supposed to be 3 years)
>
>  
>
> One very important issue I think is the maintenance and replacement parts.
> Aviation engines are SO expensive, while I think that the Rotary might be
> cheaper.
>
>  
>
> Also, I would like to have some information about some issues that the Lyc.
> says are the weak points of the Wankel, like high operating RPM,
> difficulties for cooling, too much electronics, and others…
>
>  
>
> At the end, to be honest I like very much the Rotary idea, so I’m asking you
> for opinion and experience, since I think that almost all the people who say
> that the Rotary doesn’t work actually has no experience with it.
>
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> Thanks a lot for your time.
>
>  
>
> Gonzalo
>
> Santiago - Chile
>
>  
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>


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