X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net ([207.115.11.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3522885 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:52:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.11.51; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [192.168.10.7] (adsl-152-88-81.jan.bellsouth.net[70.152.88.81]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20090302035205H0100pfbcfe>; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:52:05 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.152.88.81] Message-ID: <49AB57E8.5060605@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:52:08 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Still low oil pressure References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Where are you measuring pressure, & are you using a remote filter? FWIW, at least one person that was using a remote mounted filter got the 'in' & 'out' reversed. Some (most?) filters have check valves & won't pass oil in reverse. Charlie Tracy Crook wrote: > Really hard to draw any conclusions without knowing what 'a little > flow' is. At cranking speed it should be enough to make a good sized > puddle on the floor in 3 - 5 seconds. Does your first paragraph imply > that there was more oil flow before the filter than after it? If true, > that is suspicious. > > If you still suspect priming as the problem, have you tried to force > some heavy weight oil (40 - 50 wt) back toward the pump with air > pressure? If there is any significant oil flow through the pump, it > ought to prime immediately unless it is a totally clapped out pump. > > BTW, are you sure your oil pressure reading was accurate and not just > an instrument problem? > > Tracy > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:58 PM, The Mallorys > > wrote: > > No luck today. > > I filled the line out of the engine just after the pump, then > cranked it over with the starter. I did get a little flow, but not > very much. I reconnected the hose, and added components as I went, > checking that I had oil flow after each. Still had flow after the > cooler and just barely a trickle after the filter, where the oil > should go back into the engine. From this I am thinking either I > am not picking up enough oil, or the pump isn’t pumping enough oil. > > The only way I can think to eliminate the oil pickup as a problem > is to drop the pan, and feed directly into the engine from a > container. This will be a little bit of a pain, as I will have to > remove the radiator, drain the pan, then remove it. > > I don’t know how to check the pump. Any ideas or suggestions? Is > there a way to check it without removing the rear eccentric shaft > bolt? It was a royal pain to remove last time, and I really don’t > want to have to remove it again if there is another way to check > that the pump is pumping. > > I am not using the apex seal oil pump. All I did was cap off the > hole on the outside of the block, and left all the internal parts. > I don’t think this should make a difference, but thought I would > mention it in case. > > Chris >