X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.92.26] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3522703 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:11:58 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.92.26; envelope-from=msteitle@gmail.com Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so1718878qwh.25 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:11:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=11PtRHNHzcaPGM/p3NQAGz2unPzqW/317R1KG5lvPRw=; b=Zh+daCEIlijqYyy+858A+vzSxDwB72xK01zm1ov2bBobcHyizVozB0F3j9rfsOxHmW PZ5IgY/4JFHBZYE9wPqOZNRFfv+Ayf8hNINWV5klpvNTFgx9Nw5cHzc5AvaTYM393OVa xdZMtRvvn49FRpgUkbgrkAywSGQdLaua9ydds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MTNNKirHXSw9YZgTjR2JeZdEiPYwdpW8GmKyZr5VogF4XSRvfxE9JRcr1HoG/MoJG4 0EpSXNkLx8ko7wLxW2q31YCLmcVBdP4XnJFrh4+qQEdpr90bY+sdE9+Xsm30E+NAK8VZ NT9LmLuvFhfgBVAzkrNwwiQiINmD72EWP9ais= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.6.131 with SMTP id 3mr1493697qaz.213.1235956282672; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:11:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:11:22 -0600 Message-ID: <5cf132c0903011711g5398e4d3w428e7d6f8073b2e5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Still low oil pressure From: Mark Steitle To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cb12c2fc72e0464187f8c --0015175cb12c2fc72e0464187f8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, Sounds to me like your oil pump is dry and isn't primed. If I'm correct, the only way to get it going is to either take the front cover off, remove the pump and prime it with Vasoline (I think that is what Lynn recommended)= , or pressurize the crankcase with 3-5 psi of air while cranking the engine over to try and force oil up into the pump to get it to prime. That's what I had to do to get my 20B oil pump going. Maybe someone else has a better suggestion. Mark S. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:58 PM, The Mallorys wro= te: > No luck today. > > > > I filled the line out of the engine just after the pump, then cranked it > over with the starter. I did get a little flow, but not very much. I > reconnected the hose, and added components as I went, checking that I had > oil flow after each. Still had flow after the cooler and just barely a > trickle after the filter, where the oil should go back into the engine. > From this I am thinking either I am not picking up enough oil, or the pum= p > isn=92t pumping enough oil. > > > > The only way I can think to eliminate the oil pickup as a problem is to > drop the pan, and feed directly into the engine from a container. This w= ill > be a little bit of a pain, as I will have to remove the radiator, drain t= he > pan, then remove it. > > > > I don=92t know how to check the pump. Any ideas or suggestions? Is ther= e a > way to check it without removing the rear eccentric shaft bolt? It was a > royal pain to remove last time, and I really don=92t want to have to remo= ve it > again if there is another way to check that the pump is pumping. > > > > I am not using the apex seal oil pump. All I did was cap off the hole on > the outside of the block, and left all the internal parts. I don=92t thi= nk > this should make a difference, but thought I would mention it in case. > > > > Chris > --0015175cb12c2fc72e0464187f8c Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,

Sounds to me like your oil pump is dry and isn't primed.= =A0 If I'm correct, the only way to get it going is to either take the = front cover off, remove the pump and prime it with Vasoline (I think that i= s what Lynn recommended), or pressurize the crankcase with 3-5 psi of air w= hile cranking the engine over to try and force oil up into the pump to get = it to prime.=A0 That's what I had to do to get my 20B oil pump going.= =A0 Maybe someone else has a better suggestion.=A0

Mark S.


On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:= 58 PM, The Mallorys <candtmallory@cebridge.net> wrote:

No luck today.

=A0

I filled the line out of the engine just after the pump, then cranked it over with the starter.=A0 I did get a little flow, but not very much.=A0 I reconnected the hose, and added components as I went, checking that I had oil flow after each.=A0 Still had flow after the cooler and just barely a trickle after the filter, where the oil should go back in= to the engine.=A0 From this I am thinking either I am not picking up enough oil, or the pump isn=92t pumping enough oil.

=A0

The only way I can think to eliminate the oil pickup as a problem is to drop the pan, and feed directly into the engine from a contai= ner.=A0 This will be a little bit of a pain, as I will have to remove the radiator, drain the pan, then remove it.

=A0

I don=92t know how to check the pump.=A0 Any ideas or suggestions?=A0 Is there a way to check it without removing the rear eccent= ric shaft bolt?=A0 It was a royal pain to remove last time, and I really don=92= t want to have to remove it again if there is another way to check that the p= ump is pumping.

=A0

I am not using the apex seal oil pump.=A0 All I did was cap off the hole on the outside of the block, and left all the internal parts.=A0 I don=92t think this should make a difference, but thought I would mention it in case.

=A0

Chris


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