X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mail-qy0-f17.google.com ([209.85.221.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3452997 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:05:36 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.17; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10so9252086qyk.19 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+ex/U/QEtNOc0epmuX+eYaJop0GmPkWhqPR5bx/ikVo=; b=ZySAIUXIbE7j70YEjIoN1TeoHH1R/ptc8i9fidofzRJJo1sW2XtAIYF6yqTCez1kw0 kF6Je9NgdQSEF/DcSxlV7Gdhg/gHm/qvFQnPMxFlIjrh2EqUH1AsRml8fVAjXS96rTRe DZZuEKpCO6sGoUiz2sHDTKe2TUI8Rys6r3T7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=O6MVtk7SX/qcTPCcGV5QQecKAchQLph0u8JYIhyYH6eOrGZMBfV87IVS3lLUz5XlW0 eze4PnzLZzEK99aB7rVBV2y2z8PgPqnKdqVBig2dXQ5jhY2vftzZWg+7MpdfuBERAX9N sEXe94f/1k+NcOWiqUWrS72tvh0n30aaaFllA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by 10.214.244.4 with SMTP id r4mr441780qah.53.1232985900154; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:05:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:05:00 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c17537da5e46e4bc Message-ID: <1b4b137c0901260805x49f5dc68j8f8eaee6cdd91025@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Frying pan... it gets fun!!! From: Tracy Crook To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cdd8a977e48046164e61b --0015175cdd8a977e48046164e61b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmmm. That does bring one more detail to mind. The 3rd gen improvements I'm aware of are in the area around the spark plugs to enhance heat transfer to the coolant. This raised the threshold of film boiling temperature. Film boiling would result in hairline cracks radiating fore and aft from the spark plug holes on the inside of the rotor housings. This can also be a source of coolant leaks into the chamber. Look carefully, they can be hard to see. I've seen them (not on my engines) but it was my understanding that this was a symptom of fairly long term repetitive overheating rather than a one time event. I could be wrong about that. Tracy On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Slade wrote: > >IMHO, 225 deg even for a moment could very well be the culprit. I don't > think we're comparing apples here. My understanding is that the 3rd gen > engine is slightly beefed up in this area and can take higher temps without > damage than the older versions. I could be wrong.... > John > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0015175cdd8a977e48046164e61b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmmm.  That does bring one more detail to mind.  The 3rd gen imp= rovements I'm aware of are in the area around the spark plugs to enhanc= e heat transfer to the coolant.  This raised the threshold of film boi= ling temperature.   Film boiling would result in hairline cracks = radiating fore and aft from the spark plug holes on the inside of the rotor= housings.  This can also be a source of coolant leaks into the chambe= r.   Look carefully, they can be hard to see.

I've seen them (not on my engines) but it was my understanding that= this was a symptom of fairly long term repetitive overheating rather than = a one time event.  I could be wrong about that.

Tracy

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Slade <sladerj@sbcglob= al.net> wrote:
>IMHO, 225 deg even for a moment could very well be the culprit. I don&#= 39;t think we're comparing apples here. My understanding is that the 3r= d gen engine is slightly beefed up in this area and can take higher temps w= ithout damage than the older versions. I could be wrong....
John

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