X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.56] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTP id 3440940 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:25:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.56; envelope-from=gregw@onestopdesign.biz Received: from OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 74671b00j0S2fkCA69R3Qm; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:25:03 +0000 Received: from osd1 ([24.6.40.29]) by OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 79R21b0060dkeQQ8V9R2pt; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:25:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Greg Ward" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Heavy Fuel? Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:27:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0A24_01C97D5E.498D61D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0A24_01C97D5E.498D61D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Probably not a bad idea to consider McDonald's fry grease as an = alternative though. They're (guess who?) already trying to stop all = drilling and refining in this hemisphere. Greg Ward Lancair 20B in progress ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sohn=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Heavy Fuel? You are not a downer Tracy! That is the way it is. Somebody mentioned recently, forgot where, that Mistral stopped = working on the heavy fuel engine.=20 Richard Sohn N2071U ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tracy Crook=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Heavy Fuel? I liked the Experimenter ezine but the article on heavy fuel was a = bit lame. Yes, you can (with some difficulty) make a spark ignited = heavy fuel engine but so what? What does it get you? The efficiency = is no better, and the power is less. The fuel is more expensive. The military is interested in this for the purpose of fuel = commonality only. =20 Tracy (sorry to be a downer) On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Dale Rogers wrote: Hi all, I just read a somewhat interesting article in the new EAA electronic magazine, < http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/ >. http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-01_engine.asp IIRC, the rotary has a bit of a reputation for being able to run on darned near anything that will burn (100 proof?). With direct injection - just after the intake ports are obscured - a realistic possibility, I wonder if the 13B couldn't be a star platform for a heavy fuel solution. Hmm, I've got an extra engine, and if I can ever get the "fly" engine on the airplane ... nah, just another distraction to keep me from finishing the COZY. After that? Dale R. COZY MkIV #0497 Ch. 12 complete. ~still~ on Ch. 13 :( -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.12/1911 - Release Date: = 1/23/2009 7:28 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0A24_01C97D5E.498D61D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Probably not a bad idea to consider = McDonald's fry=20 grease as an alternative though. They're (guess who?) already = trying to=20 stop all drilling and refining in this hemisphere.

Greg Ward

Lancair 20B in = progress

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sohn
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft

Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 = 12:44=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Heavy=20 Fuel?

You are not a downer Tracy! That is = the way it=20 is.

Somebody mentioned recently, forgot = where, that=20 Mistral stopped working on the heavy fuel engine.

Richard Sohn
N2071U

----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tracy Crook
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft=20

Sent: Friday, January 23, = 2009 2:07=20 PM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = Heavy=20 Fuel?

I liked the Experimenter ezine but the article on = heavy fuel=20 was a bit lame. Yes, you can (with some difficulty) make a = spark=20 ignited heavy fuel engine but so what? What does it get=20 you? The efficiency is no better, and the power is = less. =20 The fuel is more expensive.

The military is interested in = this for=20 the purpose of fuel commonality only. =

Tracy (sorry=20 to be a downer)

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Dale = Rogers <dale.r@cox.net>=20 wrote:

Hi=20 all,

I just read a somewhat interesting article in = the new=20 EAA
electronic magazine, < http://eaa.org/experimenter/issues/ = >.

http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-01_engine.a= sp

IIRC,=20 the rotary has a bit of a reputation for being able to
run on = darned=20 near anything that will burn (100 proof?).

With = direct=20 injection - just after the intake ports are
obscured - a = realistic=20 possibility, I wonder if the 13B
couldn't be a star platform = for a=20 heavy fuel solution.

Hmm, I've got an extra engine, = and if I=20 can ever get the
"fly" engine on the airplane ... nah, just = another=20 distraction
to keep me from finishing the COZY. After=20 that?

Dale R.
COZY MkIV #0497
Ch. 12 complete. = ~still~=20 on Ch. 13 :(

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