Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2763706 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:38:52 -0500 Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [208.187.45.45]) by ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 3.0.273) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 19:38:21 -0800 Message-ID: <005901c3b23c$62ce6060$2d2dbbd0@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re: [FlyRotary] radiator Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:38:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This airplane is at my airport, two rows away in the hangers. He initially had the NACA duct in the belly, but didn't like upflow through the engine, so had ducts to take the air to the top and a plenum. Didn't cool adequately. He then changed to the top NACA ducts, using plans from Velocity. This was an improvement, but still not adequate. Once he started measuring pressure drop across the engine, he started making good improvements. He did a number of tests with and without the 'side rails' as well as with and without the vortex generators. What he has now works really well. He also has exhaust augmenters, which help a bunch on the ground, taxiing, etc. the bottom cowl has since been redesigned but still has the augmentors. Bill Schertz KIS Cruiser # 4045 ----- Original Message ----- From: "JJ JOHNSON" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re: [FlyRotary] radiator > Jim, by diffusers do you mean the pic showing the little alum. angle's that > are [ look like anyway] bonded to the fuse ~12" ahead of the inlet? They > look like vortex generators? I was curious as to what the side 'rails' are > that are located on each side of the inlet ramp to the duct. If nothing > else they sure look cool. I think one of the major problems w/ the Naca > ducts used in this application is that they should still be placed in an > area of high pressure. I my humble opinion, right behind the thickest part > of the fuse isn't really a high pressure location. However having said > that.. I'm not sure where else he could have put them unless he had wanted > to do alot of ducting. I think that's why he put those little VG's where > they are. It would appear that he was having problems w/ airflow velocity > [boundary layer thickness] and by adding the vg's he re-energized or speed > up/thinned down the boundary layer and improved the airflow into his ducts. > I've seen several pictures of Long-Ez's w/ very large Naca ducts on the > bottom of the fuse, which in my mind would be a higher area of pressure that > on top at least, unless I'm missing something. > > My two bits > > Jarrett > >