X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from mx2.netapp.com ([216.240.18.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTPS id 3440654 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:08:07 -0500 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.240.18.37; envelope-from=echristley@nc.rr.com X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.37,314,1231142400"; d="scan'208";a="117348591" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 23 Jan 2009 11:07:30 -0800 Received: from [10.62.16.115] (ernestc-thinkcenter-kubuntu64.hq.netapp.com [10.62.16.115]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id n0NJ4D7r008649 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:04:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <497A14DE.4030400@nc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:05:02 -0500 From: Ernest Christley Reply-To: echristley@nc.rr.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Heavy Fuel? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Rogers wrote: > > With direct injection - just after the intake ports are > obscured - a realistic possibility, I wonder if the 13B > couldn't be a star platform for a heavy fuel solution. > > Hmm, I've got an extra engine, and if I can ever get the > "fly" engine on the airplane ... nah, just another distraction > to keep me from finishing the COZY. After that? Diesel needs the high compression to get the fuel-air mix above it's auto-ignition temp. Could you get the same temps with a turbo without the intercooler and/or preheating the fuel before the injector with a oil-to-water heat exhanger? You'd probably need a small tank for gas to warm it up, or adding an electric heater if heating the fuel were sufficient. Heat the fuel to something on the order of 500*F, and it will be like a flame thrower going into the cylinder. It will ignite as soon as it is exposed to oxygen (it would possibly coke in the lines, too). Take the heat off of the exhaust, and it wouldn't even need spark to keep running. Of course, it would probably melt the housing around the spark plug hole in short order. Can't have everything, ya' know. 8*)