X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from host.roblinphoto.com ([72.52.218.78] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.11) with ESMTPS id 3439723 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:37:06 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.52.218.78; envelope-from=bob@bob-white.com Received: from c-68-35-128-192.hsd1.nm.comcast.net ([68.35.128.192]:58410 helo=quail) by host.roblinphoto.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LQEiS-0007w7-Ua for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:36:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:36:25 -0700 From: Bob White To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers Message-Id: <20090122223625.b966fcfd.bob@bob-white.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.roblinphoto.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - bob-white.com If you're going to make power, you have to burn gas. 265 HP at 15 gph would be a bsfc of about .34. That would be pretty amazing. :) Bob W. On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:19:51 -0800 "Greg Ward" wrote: > Agree to that. Our projections on the turbo 20B are much higher than that. > Greg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Al Gietzen > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:13 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers > > > Ed; > > > > Seems like your numbers are about 100 hp - or maybe one rotor - too low. > > > > Al G > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:34 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers > > > > Doug, at 15 gph at 6000 rpm, Mark would be making approx 165 HP, perhaps a bit more, using a very conservative BSFC of 0.55. If you assume a bit better BSFC of 0.49 it would be around 183 HP. > > > > > > Ed > > > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > > http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of DLOMHEIM@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:38 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Mark's BBQ Run / 20B numbers > > > > Mark: > > > > Great story...thanks for posting it! At 6,000 rpm and 15 gph, how many HP do you think you're developing? > > > > Also, have you by chance flown side by side with another Lycoming powered ES for comparison purposes? If so what did you learn? > > > > We're going to have a couple of "burger burns" at our airport ((2OK2) just east of Tinker AFB) this Spring / Summer, so maybe you'll feel like going on a short cross country up this way and show our little EAA chapter what a three rotor looks and sounds like?! > > > > Blue Skies > > > > Doug > > RV-9A, 13B > > Organizing the hanger for Spring FWF and canopy work! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > -- N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 - http://www.bob-white.com 3.8 Hours Total Time and holding Cables for your rotary installation - http://roblinstores.com/